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lorinda 10-25-2005 07:30 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
I'm already on at +14000.

USA are ranked top eight in the world and have every shot at being the seeded team.

Lori

beset7 10-25-2005 07:36 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
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I'm already on at +14000.

USA are ranked top eight in the world and have every shot at being the seeded team.

Lori

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Where (when) did you find this line?

Yeah, its a longshot but it probably has more value then most international soccer fans would care to admit.

lorinda 10-25-2005 07:37 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
I'm fortunate enough to be able to bet on Betfair. I took it a few weeks ago.

Longshots + Betting exchanges == huge lines.

Lori

beset7 10-25-2005 07:40 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
Lucky brits!

10-25-2005 07:45 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
The FIFA rankings are a load of rubbish that unduely promote teams that play a lot of games and teams that play a lot of qualifiers in the weak CONCACAF group. The US are not one of the best teams in the world (perhaps between 15th and 20th at a wild guess).

That said, +6600 or better is a decent price for a small bet. As Greece showed in Euro 2004 anything can happen in a small tournament.

lorinda 10-25-2005 07:54 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
Despite them being rubbish, I believe they have not yet announced the method for the seeding.

I suspect FIFA won't undermine their own rankings system by not using them to seed the groups.

It is however only a guess.

Lori

10-26-2005 12:34 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
Don't know what they did last timee, but during the 1990s FIFA used performance in the last three world cup finals (with greater weighting to the more recent) as the basis for their seeding system.

If they did this the US would score well for their 2002 performance but less well for 1998 when they lost all their games. It would probably put them in the second band of teams for the draw.

You'd think they'd have mannaged to work out what they were doing by now!

Wyrm2 10-26-2005 07:36 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
The seeding is probably going to stay the same as last time and that would put the USA 10th (so not seeded...) Here's the link
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NajdorfDefense 10-26-2005 10:07 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
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USA to win at +6600 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] (1/2 unit).

(my stupid bet of the year)

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You can easily find that bet at +12500 or better. One unit.
US was one Oliver Kahn miss away from an excellent shot at Brazil in the finals.
Brazil was down 1-0 to Turkey in the opening rounds. France lost to Senegal. USA beat Portugal. Upsets happen.

Naj

11-18-2005 05:01 PM

Re: World Cup Soccer Futures
 
Will S. Korea reach the round of 16?

Yes +362.

After World Cup 2002, the soccer has become insanely popular in Korea. Some 30,000 South Koreans are expected to fly to Germany to watch them in a stadium. What they lack in skills and talents, the Koreans are going to make up in efforts.

I know people say S. Korean's placing top 4 in 2002 was a fluke. But I think it could be more than that, i.e. greasing the officials. This may happen again next year, who knows. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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