Re: Which books should I get by Tom McEvoy and Ken Warren, if any?
 

Ken Warren is a good to poker like my dog is to my left testicle.

Real good.

Re: Which books should I get by Tom McEvoy and Ken Warren, if any?
 

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Ken Warren is to ... poker like my dog is to my left testicle.

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Your dog sucks your left testicle?

Re: Which books should I get by Tom McEvoy and Ken Warren, if any?
 

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I notice they've written a lot about the game, which I can only assume means their books are successful sellers. I've read almost every poker book 2+2 has published and am ready to move on to other perspectives.

Can people who have read their work recommend their better books? It doesn't matter what aspect of poker they're about, as long as they're not introductory.

Thanks.

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They suck.

Re: Which books should I get by Tom McEvoy and Ken Warren, if any?
 

If you read Warren's Omaha book you will really, really, really, really, really know how to read the board.

Re: Which books should I get by Tom McEvoy and Ken Warren, if any?
 

The correct answer is zero.


Non 2+2 books worth looking at (some pretty good.... otherat least not completely sucky) include:

Middle Limit Holdem - Ciafonne (as well as other Ciaffone books)
How good is your limit holdem - Bryan Jacobs
Weighing the Odds in Hold em - King Yao
Internet Hold-em - Hilger
Ace on the River - Greenstein

The Super System books aren't great...but would certainly be better reads than Warren or McEvoy (or Krieger for that matter).

Re: Which books should I get by Tom McEvoy and Ken Warren, if any?
 

Supposedly Ken Warren is a pretty strong mid to high limit player, but his books are not well regarded.

Re: Which books should I get by Tom McEvoy and Ken Warren, if any?
 

Alot of the McEvoy's books are written for beginners, so if you are expecting to learn some super secret strategy, that won't happen.

Personally I liked all of Tom McEvoy's books, and have learned something useful from every one of them. How ever they arent cookbook type books, but instead they have folksy feel to them.

While many lemmings on 2+2 like to critise them, McEvoy/Cloutier have a heck of alot more WSOP bracelets than most of thier critics do. All that said, all the championship series books are aimed towards beginners, with the exception of "Championship Stud"

Re: Which books should I get by Tom McEvoy and Ken Warren, if any?
 

Buy as many McEvoy and Warren books as you need for the following. Take two or three books so that the combined thickness is 4"+. Then glue them together and also glue the edges so that the pages cannot be opened. Then glue a flat heavy weight to them at the bottom. Voilá! You now have some nice bookends to hold your useful poker books in place on your shelves.

Re: Which books should I get by Tom McEvoy and Ken Warren, if any?
 

"All that said, all the championship series books are aimed towards beginners, with the exception of "Championship Stud" "

Beginner's books can justifiably omit or simplify concepts But if they have them flat out wrong, the excuse that the book was for beginners is clearly just that. An unacceptable excuse for incompetance (and strong evidence that the authors actually didn't understand the concept themselves.)

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While many lemmings on 2+2 like to critise them, McEvoy/Cloutier have a heck of alot more WSOP bracelets than most of thier critics do.

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Hi Everyone:

I see this argument made often, and the fact is: It is a cop out.

A book needs to be judged by the words that appear on its pages. Nothing more, and nothing less.

Best wishes,
Mason