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Melchiades 10-22-2005 07:16 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
If they are going to see the river with a flushdraw regardless, charge them. Make sure they make a mistake, don't let them get correct odds.

Arnfinn Madsen 10-22-2005 07:18 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
Yeah, format is awesome, you will still have over 60BBs in 2nd hour [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

I have been at very donkey table 1st hour, but haven't managed to take advantage of it (they will probably hang around awhile with these stacks so it is looking good [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]). T4,993 at 1st break.

gobboboy 10-22-2005 07:19 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
If they're going to see the river regardless with a pair + flush draw on the turn I don't want to punt 1k chips and have to pay off a river bet of bigger proportions when I'm wrong but barely make anything when it blanks out. Reverse implied odds, I say.

EDIT: 8580 at the break. Should be over 10k with a few hands, but oh well.

Arnfinn Madsen 10-22-2005 07:24 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
Your logic is a bit wrong, IMO. You have to make an oversized bet on turn to give them incorrect implied odds, since you can't fold on a 500 bet on river.

TomHimself 10-22-2005 07:41 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
you played that pretty bad

gobboboy 10-22-2005 07:43 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
Fine, I'm a donkey.

Just took a big hit when I tried to force the same guy with K6d off a hand. Trying to recover. Not going to bluff that guy anymore.

ansky451 10-22-2005 07:47 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
They're going to be seeing the river with a flush draw regardless , there are so many hands they can have that I like on the turn and I want to get maximum value out of it. In these tournaments, if they want to see showdown they are going to unless I really make a huge bet.

Also there's a chance they perceive my bet as weakness and raise me, at which point I cram it in.

[/ QUOTE ]


That is exactly why you should have bet stronger.

I think you mis-played every single street, except the river.

So you should only be mad at yourself.

Arnfinn Madsen 10-22-2005 07:48 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
Donk sucks out on other player, when asked why he chased he said he was desperate short stack (with 50 BBs [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]).

CieloAzor 10-22-2005 07:56 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
Meh.

PokerStars Game #2867971719: Tournament #13822822, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2005/10/22 - 19:52:56 (ET)
Table '13822822 88' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: SantaChris (4345 in chips)
Seat 2: espozuno (3725 in chips)
Seat 3: zatoichi139 (2965 in chips)
Seat 4: Tutnik (3385 in chips)
Seat 5: Hoeks (4165 in chips)
Seat 6: 0ld Dave (4180 in chips)
Seat 7: NED(C) (3910 in chips)
Seat 8: CieloAzor (5510 in chips)
Seat 9: Salzano (12815 in chips)
CieloAzor: posts small blind 50
Salzano: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CieloAzor [9s 9d]
SantaChris: folds
espozuno: folds
zatoichi139: folds
Tutnik: folds
Hoeks: calls 100
0ld Dave: folds
NED(C): folds
CieloAzor: raises 300 to 400
Salzano: folds
Hoeks: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [9h 6c Jh]
CieloAzor: bets 500
Hoeks: calls 500
*** TURN *** [9h 6c Jh] [Ks]
CieloAzor: bets 1400
Hoeks: raises 1865 to 3265 and is all-in
CieloAzor: calls 1865
*** RIVER *** [9h 6c Jh Ks] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CieloAzor: shows [9s 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
Hoeks: shows [Tc Qs] (a straight, Nine to King)
Hoeks collected 8430 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8430 | Rake 0
Board [9h 6c Jh Ks 5d]
Seat 1: SantaChris folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: espozuno folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: zatoichi139 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Tutnik folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Hoeks showed [Tc Qs] and won (8430) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 6: 0ld Dave folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: NED(C) (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CieloAzor (small blind) showed [9s 9d] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 9: Salzano (big blind) folded before Flop

gobboboy 10-22-2005 08:00 PM

Re: Unofficial Deep stacks thread
 
Got the fish to double me a few times, up to 12440.


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