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Felipe 10-27-2005 09:38 PM

Re: My first hand in a while...
 
The above post is EXACTLY what I wanted to say, Thanks dude.

<ul type="square">[*]Not enough equity to bet.[*] <font color="blue">at 1c/2c - 99% will call (made up figure...) </font>[*]You don't have a hand in need of protection[*]Perfect illustration of "the free card play"[/list]

SheridanCat 10-28-2005 11:06 AM

Re: My first hand in a while...
 
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I think you have a 0% chance of all three opponents folding to a single turn bet.


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At .01/.02, okay, I have no experience at that limit. At .5/1 or higher, you have equity.

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Betting this turn also means inevitably betting the river and hoping everyone else folds since your hand has little showdown value.


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Well, if the fold equity is 0% on the turn, it's going to be just slightly over 0% on the river at this limit.

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You have 8 clean outs to the nuts (four aces, four nines). Your overcards are worth about 3 outs. 11 outs gives us a little less than 25% pot equity. So even if you bet and all players call, your bet is not even EV neutral.


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It's a very slight -EV situation if you take out all fold equity. But if you add in the implied odds if you hit, I think a case can be made for betting the turn. You'll likely get all to call on the turn (remember fold equity is 0%), so there's 4 big bets, and you'll get at least a couple callers on the river for another couple big bets.

My brain is fried from playing PL Omaha last night, so I'm just not up to the math this morning, but I think this is worth betting - even in the no-fold'em nanos.

I admit to not really paying attention to the limits on this one. I just assumed the players were not insane. My apologies for that.

Regards,

T

SheridanCat 10-28-2005 11:07 AM

Re: My first hand in a while...
 
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The above post is EXACTLY what I wanted to say, Thanks dude.

<ul type="square">[*]Not enough equity to bet.[*] <font color="blue">at 1c/2c - 99% will call (made up figure...) </font>[*]You don't have a hand in need of protection[*]Perfect illustration of "the free card play"[/list]
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Who's protecting? I'm building a pot with this hand. It was an illustration of a good free card play, but I'm not sure it was really necessary here.

Regards,

T

OrianasDaad 10-28-2005 01:27 PM

Re: My first hand in a while...
 
Nicely played. At this limit, I like a turn bet, though. It's right on the edge of a value bet, and might clean out a K or Q enough for you to be good by spiking top pair.

Make a note of MP3 call/folding on the flop, especially since he was getting worse odds to call the first bet than the second.

Make BB a buddy immediately, if UB supports the function.

I'm surprised nobody bet into you on the river, but it's been awhile since I played this low. I remember the players being much more aggressive.

Remember, the free card play works much better against passive opponents.


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