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shant 10-14-2005 06:48 PM

Re: A4s TP OOP
 
I think the flop bet is fine but I fold the turn.

ZenMusician 10-14-2005 06:51 PM

Re: A4s TP OOP
 
Bet flop, fold to turn raise.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

-ZEN

ZenMusician 10-14-2005 06:54 PM

I\'m Bill Fillmaff!
 
1.) clearly minor casinos are better
2.) notice that "casinos" does not require an apostrophe

That is all.

-ZEN

@bsolute_luck 10-14-2005 08:57 PM

Re: I\'m Bill Fillmaff!
 
[ QUOTE ]
notice that "casinos" does not require an apostrophe

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it does if he's talking about playing a Mr. Major Casino's house [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

lu_hawk 10-14-2005 09:22 PM

Re: A4s TP OOP
 
Easy fold on the turn when a 90/0/.14 raises you and you don't have a very good hand.

Grease 10-14-2005 10:11 PM

Re: A4s TP OOP
 
I think I like the flop lead, to see what the BB does. If he raises, you're certainly not upset if he protects your hand for you, but since he just called, I'm quite intrigued.

I fold the turn, though.

I think I could also see check/calling the flop and bailing if there's no help on the turn.

I could go either way.

@bsolute_luck 10-14-2005 10:23 PM

Re: A4s TP OOP
 
i'm interested to hear people's explanation for liking the flop lead and what they would have to have if they were BB to raise this bet?

i obviously figure it is hoping BB raises for protection, but what are we protecting ourselves from that we hope to fold and if BB raises and a non-diamond comes on the turn, what is your plan (ie 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

TheHammer24 10-16-2005 01:33 AM

Re: A4s TP OOP
 
[ QUOTE ]
i'm interested to hear people's explanation for liking the flop lead and what they would have to have if they were BB to raise this bet?

i obviously figure it is hoping BB raises for protection, but what are we protecting ourselves from that we hope to fold and if BB raises and a non-diamond comes on the turn, what is your plan (ie 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?

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This is my primary question. The tunr is easy, I'll pretend it was a misclick. Do I really check call the flop? it' just seems weak. Do I go into call down mode if BB raises? This hadn was very hard for me.

10-16-2005 01:46 AM

Re: A4s TP OOP
 
Vs these two you've got to bet the flop; there are a ton of worse hands they're calling with. Both of there ranges are any two so you're almost always ahead.

Your raiser's AF is .14 unless the sample size is really small or he's gotton out of line lately you should be folding just about anything to a his raise. I'd imagine his betting/raising standards are extremely high. The BB makes this even easier because it should be very clear he's not trying to put a move on you.

TheHammer24 10-16-2005 02:26 AM

Re: A4s TP OOP
 
BB is going to bet here 95% of the time, so I don't have to worry about the value of betting the flop.

My hand is not that vulnerable. I'm WA/WB most likely, depending on villians' A Pair if they have one im in trouble.

If I bet, BB could raise and protect my hand, but my vulnerability is to the Flush Draw which isn't folding. 2 outters are not calling a single bet profitably.


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