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veganmav 10-11-2005 02:03 PM

Re: Misplayed every street? what do you do? tough spot with KQ
 
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why would you be less inclined to call the 3rd than the 2nd?

Barron

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Once he springs to life and three bets ANOTHER checkraiser, he is representing something big. Some might say it's better to avoid getting in to this pot when I'm often drawing even slimmer than I hope. Fold then and save the one bet?

DcifrThs 10-11-2005 02:04 PM

Re: Misplayed every street? what do you do? tough spot with KQ
 
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why would you be less inclined to call the 3rd than the 2nd?

Barron

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Once he springs to life and three bets ANOTHER checkraiser, he is representing something big. Some might say it's better to avoid getting in to this pot when I'm often drawing even slimmer than I hope. Fold then and save the one bet?

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to me that says club draw.

Barron

TimM 10-11-2005 02:04 PM

Re: Misplayed every street? what do you do? tough spot with KQ
 
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why would you be less inclined to call the 3rd than the 2nd?

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Because he thinks his overcard outs are now garbage. But I think he still has to take one off closing the action in a big pot.

veganmav 10-11-2005 02:05 PM

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Postflop, you totally whiffed yet decided to bluff into multiple players. You are better off checking and hoping for a free card or maybe taking one off for a small bet.



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I think given the PF raise, the flop bet is fine.

TimM 10-11-2005 02:05 PM

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to me that says club draw.

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Maybe, but UTG is pretty passive accoring to his numbers.

steveyz 10-11-2005 02:07 PM

Re: Misplayed every street? what do you do? tough spot with KQ
 
The preflop raise is pretty bad. I probably don't even raise this if I were button and there was 4 limpers to me.

Check the flop, call 1 back to you, fold for 2. This is not a good flop for you.

DcifrThs 10-11-2005 02:08 PM

Re: Misplayed every street? what do you do? tough spot with KQ
 
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to me that says club draw.

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Maybe, but UTG is pretty passive accoring to his numbers.

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really?

39/0.7/6

that means a few things to me:

1) OP doesn't have many hands on this guy,

2) if he does this guy loves to limp along preflop, not raise, and then GO NUTS on flops...he has a SIX af...that means he bets and raises six times the amount he calls.

3) some combination of 1 and 2.

Barron

veganmav 10-11-2005 02:09 PM

Re: Misplayed every street? what do you do? tough spot with KQ
 
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why would you be less inclined to call the 3rd than the 2nd?

Barron

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Once he springs to life and three bets ANOTHER checkraiser, he is representing something big. Some might say it's better to avoid getting in to this pot when I'm often drawing even slimmer than I hope. Fold then and save the one bet?

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to me that says club draw.

Barron

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Assuming it is a club draw, I'm drawing to the second nut flush, on a runner runner, when it could already be dead to the UTG's ace of clubs.

TimM 10-11-2005 02:09 PM

Re: Misplayed every street? what do you do? tough spot with KQ
 
He reversed the normal format; 0.7 is obviously the AF.

veganmav 10-11-2005 02:12 PM

Re: Misplayed every street? what do you do? tough spot with KQ
 
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He reversed the normal format; 0.7 is obviously the AF.

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Yeah sorry accidently switched those, sorry it's 3am i'm tired.


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