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Roybert 09-30-2005 07:02 PM

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From "This Week with George Stephanopoulis" JANUARY 25 , 2005 (interview w/ J. Negroponte)

QUESTION: Mr. Ambassador, I want to get to the election and what is going to spring from that in a moment, but during the Condoleezza Rice’s confirmation hearings this week, there was a discussion about Iraqi -- the Iraqi military, the state of their readiness, particularly because the Iraqi military will play the lead role in protection at the polling places next Sunday. Now, she and Senator Joe Biden of Delaware disagreed sharply about how many Iraqi troops have been adequately trained. Let’s watch that exchange, if we can:

Dr. Rice: “We think the number right now is somewhere over 120,000.”



Close, Condi. Real close.

PITTM 09-30-2005 07:17 PM

Re: Progress In Iraq (scared to click aren\'t ya?)
 
it seemed to me like the title of his post was just satirical of the billion times we;ve heard from the president how much "progress" we;ve been making. have we really made like ANY progress? it seems to me like we have taken many many steps backwards since we arrived.

rj

Matty 09-30-2005 07:32 PM

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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/world/3376177

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The number of the Iraqi army's 86 battalions that can fight insurgents without U.S. and coalition help has dropped from three to one, top U.S. generals told Congress on Thursday. They also said the security situation in Iraq is too uncertain to predict large-scale American troop withdrawals anytime soon.

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I'm repelled by how happy this makes you.

[/ QUOTE ]It doesn't make me happy at all. My brothers are over there. It makes me [censored] disgusted. Disgusted at this administration, and disgusted at you right-wingers without whose blind support we wouldn't have gotten into this cluster-[censored].

[censored] you for saying it makes me happy.

I've served. I've put my ass on the line for this country. That's what this country needs. You have no reason to question my loyalty you piece of [censored].

What have you done besides get mad at people who threaten your beliefs and pretend that it's patriotism?

Roybert 09-30-2005 07:37 PM

Re: Progress In Iraq (scared to click aren\'t ya?)
 
Yes, Saddam tried to kill G-Dub's father. As they say, you can look it up.

09-30-2005 07:45 PM

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Yes, Saddam tried to kill G-Dub's father. As they say, you can look it up.

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Went right over your head, did it?

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PITTM 09-30-2005 07:51 PM

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grey, youre the man.

rj

bobman0330 09-30-2005 08:40 PM

Re: Progress In Iraq (scared to click aren\'t ya?)
 
That grip on civility is pretty tenuous, huh?

I never questioned your loyalty. I questioned the glib tone of your post. Bully for you for serving in the military, but you'll need to drop some of the smug superiority and rhetoric before you'll actually be what this country needs.

09-30-2005 08:57 PM

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...it seemed to me like the title of his post was just satirical of the billion times we;ve heard from the president how much "progress" we;ve been making.


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And you accuse GWB of exaggerating?

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09-30-2005 09:22 PM

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It sounds like it's about time for Bush to give out another Medal Of Honor. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Matty 09-30-2005 10:21 PM

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That grip on civility is pretty tenuous, huh?

I never questioned your loyalty. I questioned the glib tone of your post. Bully for you for serving in the military, but you'll need to drop some of the smug superiority and rhetoric before you'll actually be what this country needs.

[/ QUOTE ]Accusing me of being happy when our country fails is definitely questioning my loyalty.

Since you know what this country needs, tell me. And tell me how you've provided it.

Does it need more people to shut up? Does it need less public debate? Does it need information to be more controlled? Maybe a book-burning would help?

If you're going to accuse me of not being what this country needs, you have to also tell me what I'm doing wrong.


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