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flawless_victory 09-30-2005 03:06 PM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
AZK, please lock thread.
thx.

Big_Jim 09-30-2005 03:41 PM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
stew, your useless post is of no use to anybody on this forum.

Easy call, with given info.

I would call with PPs down to QQ, maybe JJ.

Leptyne 09-30-2005 03:43 PM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
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could i fold here and loo for a better spot to gain chips off him as he has donated to me many times before

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This is incorrect thinking. This spot is fine. You may have better spots later, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't call here, as long as you are properly rolled.

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There might be better spots if you wait long enough. While you're waiting (you want top set? or AKs and flop the nut flush?) he'll give his money to someone else. The important thing is making the correct decision...which is to beat him into the pot. This is a "better spot".

spino1i 09-30-2005 03:56 PM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
This is one of those situations where a read is very very important. Particularly since this is a live game, it helps to look the player in the eye while he pushes all his chips in the middle and also if you can watch his reaction when he saw the flop. I would say barring no good read to call, but again a physical read is very important here and can shed a lot of light on the correct move.

BobboFitos 09-30-2005 04:50 PM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
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stew, your useless post is of no use to anybody on this forum.

Easy call, with given info.

I would call with PPs down to QQ, maybe JJ.

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thats it? ifi somehow raised that much of my stack with an overpair, and a maniac smooth called with another player still in, I call with any overpair. (So I guess 99+ because I prolly limp 88 down..)

Big_Jim 09-30-2005 05:59 PM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
Well.... Maniac didn't re-raise PF... so we can probably eliminate AA-JJ

TT-66 are all overpairs... so the break-even call is 88, assuming that this push = overpair.

Factor in the times he has a 5, a boat or better, and the times he's semi-bluffing and it probably pushes it up to about 99-TT....

I guess you're right.

Curse me and my weak-tightness in calling massive overbets.

djoyce003 09-30-2005 11:31 PM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
this is a call....i do find it interesting that you put him precisely on the hands you are ahead of and don't consider the hands you are behind.

I really don't like making this call against unknowns because it's almost always a flush draw, set, trips, or some combo draw. However, against this guy based on your reads, you have to call here because while you could be way behind to trips or a set, you could also be WAY ahead of a smaller PP.

wdeadwyler 10-01-2005 01:59 AM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
Easiest call ever, lock thread, this is pointless. If he has a better hand, like Xorbie said, we dont care. If he had more chips I would raise him.

Lucky 10-01-2005 05:54 AM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
it's a call, but you're not going to turn into a losing player by folding. You're winrate will go down and you wont be a hero on twoplustwo.

mgsimpleton 10-01-2005 10:17 AM

Re: AA against total maniac
 
my guess is he called, then button called too, maniac showed 77 and button showed 56... guys that's why it's a fold you're all missing the point - the button is last to act and the button will usually have a 5 in this spot! more prudent thing is to fold given you are caught in the middle on a very very very dangerous board for aces. i'd rather take TJQ any day.


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