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Ryendal 09-18-2005 02:41 PM

Re: Result and conclusion
 
Sorry, too much limpers, it's ok ;-)

Wu36 09-18-2005 04:11 PM

Re: Result and conclusion
 
Pot the flop, makes the rest of the hand easier to play.

09-19-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Result and conclusion
 
I actually like the $45 bet into a $70 pot. That is 1) just good enough to screw up his odds on a potential flush draw, 2) somewhat disguise the strength of your hand since it looks like a standard continuation bet, and 3) put him to a hard decision when you push the turn if a brick hits or if this happens…

He could have raised you with something like A 6 for two pair or a more likely set. If you have the stones, you can bet big on the turn if a spade hits and possibly push him off his hand.

IMO the only mistake you made was folding the turn bet.

amoeba 09-20-2005 02:35 AM

Re: Result and conclusion
 
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Pot the flop, makes the rest of the hand easier to play.

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I'm not sure it makes it easy to play as people are capable of raising pot sized bets with the draw here or AK or perhaps AQ.

I actually think the 45 bet is not too bad assuming hero knows the responce that a weak bet like this would elicit.

Lucky 09-20-2005 03:43 AM

Re: Result and conclusion
 
You can change up your bet size at other times. Here, you want to take it down now. Bet pot, if raised, even mini raise you can fold.

But on hands like these, marginal and OOP, bet pot.

Alexthegreat 09-20-2005 05:08 AM

Re: Result and conclusion
 
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You can change up your bet size at other times. Here, you want to take it down now. Bet pot, if raised, even mini raise you can fold.

But on hands like these, marginal and OOP, bet pot.

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If you are going to fold in this spot on the principle of "I bet the pot, and he raised" you are going to get killed by anybody who is paying any attention.

ObnxNole 09-20-2005 10:22 AM

Re: Basic AK question
 
I'm stealing that pot from you everytime if you bet $45 or at least going to test your nerve. However I have become wary of people who do this to me so I'll 3-bet..if called I'll check it down unless I improve and fold to an all in.

ObnxNole 09-20-2005 10:25 AM

Re: Result and conclusion
 
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I actually like the $45 bet into a $70 pot. That is 1) just good enough to screw up his odds on a potential flush draw



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No. You need 2:1 to call with a flush draw so he is getting more than proper odds.

Leptyne 09-20-2005 02:30 PM

Re: Basic AK question
 
If he's on a draw his raise of your weak lead will get you to check the turn and he can get a free look at the river. I vary my play between an oversized bet and a pot sized bet on the flop in hopes he'll think he's only a 2:1 dog, then push a blank turn.


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