Re: PFR 3 bet, flop check
 

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= Call river. Otherwise I think you played it right.

Re: PFR 3 bet, flop check
 

I think all is fine, except I'd call the river. If the BB had a strong hand, then he definitely got a lot fewer bets than he should have had he lead out on the flop. By calling, either we win the hand, or we lose less than we should have.

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i would call the river.
i like the rest....
i think betting the fliop would be really horrible.

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not if you check the turn

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not if you check the turn

[/ QUOTE ]he might not give this luxury.
besides, if he is really scared w/ an underpair, the only way to make him fold, is by letting him bet and then raising.
if you bet, he will checkcall with 88 all the way to his sucky content.

Re: PFR 3 bet, flop check
 

5-handed, I'd consider calling the river, despite the clear signal that he has a monster.

I think the flop check is clearly best, as in my experience, betting the flop hoping for the free turn card is not likely to succeed. Betting and even 3-betting the flop looking or a "free" turn card isn't terrible though.

-Eric

Re: PFR 3 bet, flop check
 

I know what you're trying to say with this hand, but do you think his flop check followed by a turn bet translates to "AQ or better" at least 86% of the time? It's pretty hard to estimate these kind of probabilities, but my gut feel is that, though you are absolutely correct to be suspicious of a monster, you cannot be sure enough of it to pass up 6.25:1 on the river.

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in my opinion, there are only two possibilities. he either has a monster like top set, or he three bet you with JJ. i think that this hand is difficult to play considering the preflop action. i think that i would call the river for information purposes if you dont have much on this player to begin with. very deceptive play.

Re: PFR 3 bet, flop check
 

I definately bet the flop. IMO, this 3-bet followed by a check is a monster wayyy less than you guys think in the 30/60 game.

Re: PFR 3 bet, flop check
 

Not having read any other response, why not bet the flop, then if he really flopped a monster and he goes for a turn c/r you get to save a half bet. Although you have to follow through on your plan to check once you hit that queen.

P.S. isn't there more than a 6-1 chance you are good on the river? I mean, i can think of about twenty hands that he would 3-bet pre-flop with that you can beat. AT sticks out in my head.