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Stack 09-15-2005 12:09 PM

Re: Blind defense: Flopped overcards on a low board
 
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I'd only call if I expected him to give me a free river (if you frequently call flop bets and raise the turn this might hapeen somewhat frequently).

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I still think that you should call if he almost never gives a free card and, as assumed in OP, he shows down A high most of the time.

Your approch risks one sb to potentially win ~3.25BB, mine risks one sb to potentially win 5.25BB.

Besides, almost noone gives enough free turns in this situation to make a call profitable.

aslowjoe 09-15-2005 12:11 PM

Re: Blind defense: Flopped overcards on a low board
 
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edit: long story short, I agree with you redbeard

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With JT I will go with rest. Anyting better I will peel one.
If I was the pfr in the CO I would peel one. I have postion. Very often the donkbetter checks to you on the turn. You start folding too much to a donk bet they smell blood.

The donk bet I have trouble with is I raise with A9. The BB calls the flop K84. He donk bets me, now I am not quite sure what to do. I usually fold, is that correct?

09-15-2005 01:07 PM

Re: Blind defense: Flopped overcards on a low board
 
I play it the same as you, based on the same article. The math was convincing....

Hopefully he was right.

Margon

09-15-2005 01:22 PM

Re: Blind defense: Flopped overcards on a low board
 
I this situation, you might have to fold the hand. Even though its a good possibility villan didnt hit a part of the flop and might be trying to steal the pot, your high card is a Jack and you didnt hit the flop at all. Its better to cut your losses right there and prepare for the next hand then to take a chance.

Surfbullet 09-15-2005 01:32 PM

Re: Blind defense: Flopped overcards on a low board
 
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edit: long story short, I agree with you redbeard

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With JT I will go with rest. Anyting better I will peel one.

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How is QT better than JT, besides being slightly less oft dominated? we still have no showdown value.

Surf


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