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WebGuySteve 09-14-2005 02:51 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 
[ QUOTE ]

flop - "oooh, sweet a set!"
utg leads - "ahh, nice....some action from EP - let me just smooth call this most perfect of boards...boowaaaaahh"
hero raises - "BINGO!! FISH ON!! GET THE NET!!!"

mrs. sweet-set(hmmm, i wonder) is playing no other hand this way IMO

[/ QUOTE ]

That's pretty much exactly my thinking for the hand.

ChuckNorris 09-14-2005 03:33 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 
Wow. Everyone (including Raptor!) is advocating you to fold TPTK... And I agree with them.

adanthar 09-14-2005 03:43 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 
Boy that was a really dumb call/reraise.

PS: Nice outcome, but next time, don't raise the flop unless you smell that rat.

lacky 09-14-2005 03:56 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 
hmm, cant agree with 95%. I good player just called a min raise in utg+1 with AA 95% of the time, or limped behind a raise in early position with 55? The only hands that make sense here are 88, AK, AQs and maybe AJs depending on the player. No way does she have 88 95% of the time. Still a fold, but it's closer than you are implying.

Steve

kong98 09-14-2005 04:17 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 
Is min-raising a low PP from UTG normal at the 109s?

WebGuySteve 09-14-2005 04:28 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 
To be fair, my read that she's a good player is not certain, and only based on the fact that I see her a lot, and I haven't noted anything particularily donkish about her. Most of the truly aweful players come and go very quickly, or get noted. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think you'll see 55 here a lot, and I also think it's very reasonable to call an UTG min raise with 55, in fact, I would love to have 55 in that spot.

I think AK is possible, but AQ and AJ are almost definitely not possible. Her reraise left her with 170 chips. Unless she's a REALLY good player, she won't do this with a margainal holding.

I also think there's a small chance AA is there, only because superdonks like to limp/call/play AA passively.

Also, I think that there's a small chance of A8 or A5, but, if that were the case, she most certainly is not a winning player.

Michael C. 09-14-2005 05:14 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 
Nice laydown. I wish I could say I'd make a similar laydown, but I don't know that I would. It's just so easy to hit "call" there without thinking it through deeply like you did. It's POSSIBLE she has something like AQ or AK, but more likely a set for sure. Well played.

Ogre 09-14-2005 05:28 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 
[ QUOTE ]
ohhh

good chance trips are there.

I wonder how many other 109ers lay this down here?

[/ QUOTE ]

i sure do

curtains 09-14-2005 05:34 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 

I think its a nice fold but of course its much closer than most people are saying. There are some crazy people out there, and I would never expect to be ahead only 5% of the time. But okay, I still like it against the type of player you mentioned.

zambonidrivr 09-14-2005 05:49 PM

Re: 109 - Puking with AK
 
i think the mistake on this hand was not re-raising preflop. i realize it was early, but you had no way of telling where you were at after the flop. if they hit da set after a reraise so be it, but given the preflop action, i think you let someone in cheap.

nice laydown. its early and some could make an arguement for laying this down preflop at this stage.


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