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ilya 09-11-2005 08:31 PM

Re: $22 Holy overbet Batman.
 
Your draw is strong but you don't really want callers. You also don't have enough chips to have FE with a bet-raise-3-bet sequence. Also if someone just calls your flop bet you'll be in a very awkward spot if the turn is a brick. So I like the way you played it.

cha59 09-11-2005 08:56 PM

Re: $22 Holy overbet Batman.
 
I like your line.

mlagoo 09-11-2005 08:57 PM

Re: $22 Holy overbet batman.
 
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make a weak lead at the pot, maybe you get called and improve, or maybe you get raised and can push then.

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i dont like my line anymore.

youd like to be the one doing the pushing, with some FE. also, if you get called, the turn really sucks because you've invested a bunch of chips into the pot, and if you blank, you are really in a pickle.

i like your line better.

adanthar 09-11-2005 10:29 PM

Re: $22 Holy overbet Batman.
 
This line is perfect because you are already short and the push is only 2x pot or so. It's not a great time to lead out with this exact hand, because you *must* play for all your chips even if called and you may as well maximize FE.

If you had 1K chips a bet/3 bet would be far better since you can now get off the hand/make a pot odds check/call on the turn after you are just called.

jeffraider 09-11-2005 10:30 PM

Re: $22 Holy overbet Batman.
 
I'm honestly surprised at how strong your hand is ont his flop. Against TPTK you're winnning 69% of the time, and if you brick the turn you're still going to catch something to beat top pair 47.7% of the time.

I was going to post that I liked this line in general because raising small and bricking the turn normally makes you into a bigger dog but honestly, I think you could lead at this flop and try to get raised. Fire out half-pot or 2/3rds of the pot and obviously call a reraise/push etc. I was thinking that winning the pot was important before, but now getting lots of their chips in on the flop is the main goal considering just how big a favourite you are.

Freudian 09-11-2005 10:49 PM

Re: $22 Holy overbet Batman.
 
[ QUOTE ]
This line is perfect because you are already short and the push is only 2x pot or so. It's not a great time to lead out with this exact hand, because you *must* play for all your chips even if called and you may as well maximize FE.

If you had 1K chips a bet/3 bet would be far better since you can now get off the hand/make a pot odds check/call on the turn after you are just called.

[/ QUOTE ]

I forgot to add in my original post that I sometimes like to use overbets to induce calls (which of course is a hit-and-miss affair). Here I like it because I don't particularly mind a call and I don't particularly mind folds.

And I actually thought about how I could manipulate pot size to play this the best way but either my flop actions would be too weak or me not having enough chips on the turn to protect myself from A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] drawing if I make my flush.


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