Re: 1/2 Tables Stink. Little Money to Be Made There.
 

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What are you stats @ 1/2 6max?

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This is a little off the original topic which is how bad full ring is, but anyway...

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Re: 1/2 Full Tables Stink. Little Money to Be Made There.
 

I thought 1/2 was a rock garden, I thought it was not profitable. For my first 10k hands, I was break even to losing. What I realized was that I sucked at poker. I had huge leaks that were excused at .50/1 because the average pot I would win would more then make up for the dumb ass moves I had made in other hands. 1/2 is definately beatable. Find the right table, and you can make the same number of BB's as at a .50/1 table.

Re: 1/2 Full Tables Stink. Little Money to Be Made There.
 

tom

im sure things will turn around.

Re: 1/2 Full Tables Stink. Little Money to Be Made There.
 

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tom, im sure things will turn around.

[/ QUOTE ] I keep playing 1/2 6m because I know I have plenty of room for improvement in that game and there is no doubt a lot of Donks there. I'm just getting a little frustrated with it because even if I'm not playing very well, I'm playing so much better than most of the other players that it seems weird that I'm losing. But anyway.....back to full ring discussion....

Re: 1/2 Full Tables Stink. Little Money to Be Made There.
 

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I disagree with 1/2 6max being unprofitable.

Tom --

You and your super LAGTAG style is a very high variance style, which is what I attribute to your bad run. I still think that playing at 30+ VPIP is suboptimal, as even 6max players like Entity and stheif09 play in the 28s at highest (I think).

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Re: 1/2 Full Tables Stink. Little Money to Be Made There.
 

At first 1/2 felt like a rock garden, but now I can't believe how bad the players are there. Maybe I'm just getting nice tables, but there's usually some pretty good money to be made.

One thing I've noticed about 6max is how easy it is to steal pots. A lot of times if the table's right (ie not full of LAGs) you can steal a pot on the flop just by betting from EP or MP, or a randomely placed donk bet. There was a pretty good 6max post (I think it's stickied in the HUSH forum) and somewhere in it's a link to a starting hand chart. That helped me a lot (and still does). Another thing that's so important at 6 vs full is reads. Kinda rambling, but I think 6max is a blast. Lotsa easy money there...

Re: 1/2 Full Tables Stink. Little Money to Be Made There.
 

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I thought 1/2 was a rock garden, I thought it was not profitable. For my first 10k hands, I was break even to losing. What I realized was that I sucked at poker. I had huge leaks that were excused at .50/1 because the average pot I would win would more then make up for the dumb ass moves I had made in other hands. 1/2 is definately beatable. Find the right table, and you can make the same number of BB's as at a .50/1 table.

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1/2 is a Rock Garden. What makes it potentially profitable is most of the players are very passive. Perhaps I have the same problem that you did in that I got away with a lot at .5/1 that is not working there. I was running even to slightly negative after 8k at Party 1/2 Full. I started going over to Pacific 1/2 and padded my numbers there, but then I started playing 2/4 at Pacific. Pacific is shot now though, so I might as well play at Party again.

I'll give 1/2 Full another chance. Thanks for relating your tale -It is encouraging. As far as winrate though, I was beating .5/1 for 4BB/100 pretty easily. I kind of doubt that kind of rate is possible at 1/2 Full except with expert play. What do you think?

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I disagree with 1/2 6max being unprofitable.

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Hey AK,
Your're on a tear there - Looks great - keep it up. Keep it bouncing along, so to speak. How about giving us some stats so we can see what kind of things are working?

Re: 1/2 Tables Stink. Little Money to Be Made There.
 

This is nothing dude. If your winrate is 0 BB/100 and your SD is 20 BB/100, this type of swing will happen once every ~70k hands.

Brad

Re: 1/2 Full Tables Stink. Little Money to Be Made There.
 

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1/2 Full is a much tougher game than .5/1. There is little money to be made there. It stinks.

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Wrong. I made over 1k at 1/2 9-max and full-ring in about 20,000 hands. And yes, 1/2 full is different. It doesn't mean it isn't beatable. You aren't going to beat it with a 30% vpip, though.

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Thats on Party, everywhere else is worse. I have little idea why anyone plays anywhere else.

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Wrong. There are plenty of games much softer than the ones on Party to be had elsewhere. I won't ruin my bonus periods at these sites by posting where, though.

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I'm beginning to think online full ring is a waste of time above the .5/1 level. And even if your killing the .5/1 game, you can only make a few dollars an hour, so there is nowhere to go online for a decent profit. Anyone disagree?

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Once again, wrong. Look Tom, perhaps it's time to consider that it's not the game that's bad. It might be you. Think about the following very carefully: you might be a losing player at levels above 0.5/1 on Party. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]