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flawless_victory 09-08-2005 07:21 AM

Re: Questionable slow play?
 
is this hand a joke?
post this in the small stakes forum (where it belongs) and let the $2/4 players tell why this hand sucks.

DeeJ 09-08-2005 09:05 AM

Re: Questionable slow play?
 
read the thread and you might learn something.

flawless_victory 09-08-2005 03:48 PM

Re: Questionable slow play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
read the thread and you might learn something.

[/ QUOTE ]LOL!

teddyFBI 09-09-2005 01:46 AM

Re: Questionable slow play?
 
My brain hurts reading this play. It is not good.

"My reasons for the slowplay. Betting out with the Qxx flop is unlikely to get a caller unless someone else has a Queen. (15% chance?) and "

??? Are you new to the Party 10/20? You'll get not only callers but raisers with bottom pair and even gutshots. Bet this flop 11 times out of 10.

DeeJ 09-09-2005 05:16 AM

Re: Questionable slow play?
 
15% was my number for the chance of another Queen, not the chance of a call. I wanted 1 or 2 big bets not 0,1 or 2 small bets. The table was playing quite passive at the time, hence the move... and btw, if you bet this flop 11 times out of 10 you'll get a flop checkraise in minus 10% of the time... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

DeezNutz3 09-09-2005 07:03 AM

Re: Questionable slow play?
 
what are these stats based upon?

teddyFBI 09-09-2005 02:50 PM

Re: Questionable slow play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
...The table was playing quite passive at the time, hence the move...

[/ QUOTE ]

all the more reason for a flop bet.
Listen: this is a place to get advice, not just to defend your play at the right one. Everyone who has wasted their time responding tells you to bet. And I promise you that everyone else was simply too offended by the play to enter this thread.
Hope the responses so far have helped.
There is no choice here but to bet.

NLSoldier 09-09-2005 06:23 PM

Re: Questionable slow play?
 
[ QUOTE ]
is this hand a joke?
post this in the small stakes forum (where it belongs) and let the $2/4 players tell why this hand sucks.

[/ QUOTE ]

DeeJ 09-09-2005 06:25 PM

Re: Questionable slow play?
 
I already stated at least once that my default (95%+) play here is to bet out, that's not the point of the thread. The point was, if a time would come to vary the play - to keep opponents off guard, to maybe grab an extra big bet or two, to set up a metagame benefit, was there a better line after the flop... was this the time? Lots of worthwhile avenues to explore.

Both westley and adjutor picked this up, but others prefer to ignore what I said (that I don't normally play this line) and basically comment on the fact that it's not the most suitable line, draw the conclusion that I don't know that and therefore are wasting their time with a simple problem, and miss the point of the post completely! I've been here long enough not to post "should I raise AKo preflop" or "party poker is rigged" rubbish [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

(although I might say in the 1400 hands I've played since 1st September, Party have given me just 1xAA,2xKK,3xQQ and 3xJJ but 11x55, 8x22 and 8x44 !!! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] )

I'll keep it simpler next time [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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