Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

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He has never won WSOP best all around player and he has never won CardPlayer player of the year. If you want to call someone the best, you must take this two into consideration. No one has ever accomplished winning these two titles except one, and he did both in the same callendar year.

We all know who the greatest player in the world bar none is and it is not Ivey. It is someone who is his superior.

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dan had an amazing year...how's things going for him this year?

Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

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? What was my mistake?

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Just because those are his first tournaments listed doesn't mean they are his first tournaments - only the first ones that he has cashed in.

That may have been his first year at the WSOP, I can't be bothered to look that up, but it's also possible he'd been there for the previous 2 years and not cashed.

Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

He's pretty good. He's no Bill Brasky, though.

Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

Negreneau had an amazing year in 2004, no doubt. Ivey was playing mostly cash games. Negreneau hasn't done much in the WSOP, ME or side events.

Both players are still very young and legacies evolving.

Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

Who cares? Are you in love with him or something?

Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

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Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

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He has never won WSOP best all around player

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...a title that has existed for all of two years. If you retro-rank the players in 2002, Ivey would have won that award.

Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

Phil's one of my favorites to watch. I think he goes all-in too frequently when behind though.

Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

Greenstein, Lederer and Ferguson among others have all gone on record as saying Ivey is the best poker player in the world.

Greenstein has a great little write up about Ivey on his site. His biggest fault according to Barry is that Ivey doesn't devote enough effort to the tourneys. Ivey sees them as just something to do in between the cash games. The bracelet he won this year at the WSOP was because Barry woke Ivey up and made him register for the tourney. Aside from the Main event he only entered in 2 other tourneys out of around 38.

Even with all that, Ivey still has more Tourney finishes in the money vs events played than any living poker player. Imagine if he took them seriously. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Re: Phil Ivey, the World\'s Best Poker Player Bar None?
 

If he keeps this pace of bracelet winning he is going on he will break the record of 10 in 6 years. He has a better ration of events won than both Brunson and Chan. I think it may be 2nd best to Unger but im not sure.