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AngryCola 09-01-2005 03:05 PM

Re: Chaos in New Orleans
 
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People are dying because aid cannot reach them because they are being shot at. The looters are in effect killing folks, they should be neutralized

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Neutralized is a far cry from murdered.

You can try to justify it to me all you like, but neither one of us are going to come even close to changing the other's mind.

SheetWise 09-01-2005 03:14 PM

Re: Chaos in New Orleans
 
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Neutralized is a far cry from murdered.

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Stop using words you don't understand. Murder is what the thugs in the city are doing to their victims. Stopping them with deadly force is known as justifiable homicide.

AngryCola 09-01-2005 03:16 PM

Re: Chaos in New Orleans
 
Stop talking about things you don't understand.
Stop making blanket statements that you seem to feel apply to everyone who is looting.
Stop advocating death to those who only steal.

"Justifiable" seems to be used rather loosely around here.
It would be murder in the case of people who are just looting, and no twisting of words will change that.

I have no problem with anyone defending themselves or the public from armed thugs who are acting threatening. However, this is different from the majority of people who are looting. It's an important distinction.

But who am I kidding? It's much easier for some of you to think all of these people are faceless and acting exactly the same.

Non_Comformist 09-01-2005 03:40 PM

wow this reporter is really dumb
 
I'm watching the former Presidents being interviewed and I have to say the reporter conducting the interview is asking some rather stupid questions or both former President Clinton and President Bush. It's almost as if she is unaware that they are former and not current Presidents.

09-01-2005 03:45 PM

Re: Chaos in New Orleans
 
Just curious, but how are people trapped in a city with no electricity busily updating their blogs?

SheetWise 09-01-2005 03:47 PM

Re: Chaos in New Orleans
 
Most ISPs and many who run servers keep their own backup generating equipment, and it's quite common to use satellite Internet for redundancy. In an emergency, Internet hubs are much like the ham radio operators of the past.

Frills 09-01-2005 03:50 PM

Re: Chaos in New Orleans
 
Quite a few companies have their own generators as well

Victor 09-01-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Chaos in New Orleans
 
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Look at the blogs from people inside New Orleans. Reports of murders, rapes, rape-murders, arson, armed gangs of roving thugs, assaults on EMT's and rescue workers, and shootings are rampant across the blogosphere.


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can you post some links to these blogs.

Frills 09-01-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Chaos in New Orleans
 
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/

vulturesrow 09-01-2005 04:21 PM

Re: Chaos in New Orleans
 
In the other thread, Sheetwise tries to equate defending your own home/possession (deadly force allowable under LA law) wit police just shooting people on sight that were lotting. Clearly an invalide comparison.

In this thread, he tries to make looters=violent gangs that are assaulting people. Again not the same. I agree with a lot his politics and generally his reasoning is pretty good, but his bloodlust is blinding him here.


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