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08-21-2005 01:15 AM

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Here is the argument that I used. I could not say something like "sex is only for procreation" because that's something stated in the bible and we couldn't use the bible to fall back on. Being a philosophy class we had to come up with a valid argument in which to claim that necrophilia is wrong.

Obviously no harm is done to the person because they are dead. They cannot object to any actions occuring because they are dead. So it's clear that no harm is done to the person. If I came home one day and saw someone keying up my car I would have the right to call the police and have the person arrested. The car is my property. Once somone dies they're body becomes incharge of the family. They own the body, hence they have to set up funeral arrangements and so forth. So if I walked in on someone having sex with my shoe, that is just was wrong as someone having sex with a body that I now own. As silly as this sounds, this was the best argument in class and the professor agreed that it was a valid point. So... if a familyless bum dies in the middle of nowhere... sex is on necrophiliacs.

One last note. You've be surprised how many morticians are closest necrophiliacs. I talked to a director of a forenics school.... it's sad really.

Jim T 08-21-2005 02:41 AM

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One last note. You've be surprised how many morticians are closest necrophiliacs. I talked to a director of a forenics school.... it's sad really. "

Yes, I'm sure that any 'necrophiliac morticians' out there have no problem admitting their actions to other morticians. How would that conversation go, do you think?

PairTheBoard 08-21-2005 04:48 AM

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Our Professor asked if it was wrong to have sex with a dead body.

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I think it's ok as long as the dead body is a consenting adult.

PairTheBoard

The Dude 08-21-2005 07:25 PM

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I think you understate the value of the argument you used. When a person dies, their body is, with some limitations, the property of their estate. I think there are probably very few cases of necrophelia where the perp has a right to the body.

The Dude 08-21-2005 07:27 PM

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I could not say something like "sex is only for procreation" because that's something stated in the bible and we couldn't use the bible to fall back on.

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It never says that. Go away.

FoxwoodsFiend 08-21-2005 08:14 PM

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Once somone dies they're body becomes incharge of the family. They own the body, hence they have to set up funeral arrangements and so forth. So if I walked in on someone having sex with my shoe, that is just was wrong as someone having sex with a body that I now own. As silly as this sounds, this was the best argument in class and the professor agreed that it was a valid point. So... if a familyless bum dies in the middle of nowhere... sex is on necrophiliacs.

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This argument is terrible. First of all, you seem to be operating under the premise "[censored] something that is owned by somebody is wrong." If that is the only rule prohibiting necrophilia, then necrophilia would be "morally wrong" but in the most trivial sense possible-it would be as wrong as having sex with somebody's sock. In other words, your argument fails to achieve the level of condemnation that you assume necrophilia deserves (or that I assume you assume, because otherwise you wouldn't be stretching it to find this argument).
Also, even if people do own the corpse, if they're not harmed by the necrophilia then what does it matter that you're having sex with it?
Also, what about having sex with the corpse of somebody whose corpse you "own." Or buying the corpse from somebody to get the right to have sex with it? It seems odd that your ability to say necrophilia is wrong is entirely dependent on whether the proper financial transactions have taken place.
In conclusion, necrophilia is disgusting. But don't conflate "displeasing" and "wrong."

The Dude 08-21-2005 08:24 PM

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I just read your argument a little more closely. Really don't think you carry that thought through to conclusion very well, but it started off good.

malorum 08-21-2005 09:39 PM

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I think it's ok as long as the dead body is a consenting adult.

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So they give prior consent in their Will, and this makes it right?
You surprise me Pair the Board.

08-21-2005 09:42 PM

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In conclusion, necrophilia is disgusting. But don't conflate "displeasing" and "wrong."

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So then what you are saying is that it isn't wrong? If not then please offer your own argument.

FishAndChips 08-21-2005 09:46 PM

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"No one in class could come up with a valid argument against necrophilia..."

Sad indeed. Moral relativism has taken root in a big way. It can prove to be the undoing of western society.

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Sing with me now: "There's nothing quite like an overreaction...". [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Quick run to your Y2K bunker!


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