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u know that that book is for limit right?
if its limits... jus plya ur connectors wiht lots of limpers..
if its NL. oh man htats a juicy table. hahah FREE MONEY!!

Re: I Hate Games Where Everyone Limps Preflop
 

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I keep looking at HPFAP p165 (21st century edition) and read

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If you ever saw a good no limit player against weak players, you will find that he is constantly limping in. He is playing about 1/3 of the hands and limping with almost all of them. He's giving up a little bit before the flop because he can outplay them later.


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Maybe Sklansky and Malmuth's contention isn't applicable to max buy in games?

It may sound strange, but I feel more comfortable raising a single early position raiser with 89s than I do six limpers when I am on the button.

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Why don't you limp your 89s, flop the nuts, and take down two stacks?

If I could find a game where I could limp into every pot I would be in heaven.

Try playing play money, you can limp into every pot and learn how to play post flop. Fun stuff, it's what I do when I'm really drunk and don't want to go to bed.

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u know that that book is for limit right?
if its limits... jus plya ur connectors wiht lots of limpers..
if its NL. oh man htats a juicy table. hahah FREE MONEY!!

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You know the passage he quoted was about no limit right?

Re: I Hate Games Where Everyone Limps Preflop
 

touche..

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Who are you people? Who doesn't like games full of loose, passive players?

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word to this guy's post

I just wish party didn't hide the "% of players seeing the flop" statistic so I could find more of them. Once you learn how to win at these it's so easy

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Ghazban and several others nailed the answer to this. What's not to like about a game like this? Just limp along with them with all kinds of hands that can flop big and bust 'em when you hit.

My new prayer:

Oh Lord please give me more tables full of loose-passive weakies who love to limp their AA & KK after 3 limpers and then hold onto them with a death grip when I flop 2-pair with my 83o in the SB. If you do, I promise to never use your name in vain again when some donk calls my 3-bet w/AA and hits a TT2 flop to his ATo.

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yes and alwyas make note of players who
"never bet their aces because a pair rarely wins at these tables where 'young kids' paly any 2 cards"
oh man. i loved that guy.

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What you're describing is every poker players wet dream, a table full of loose-passives(or tight-passives for that matter). These people are by definition who you want to be stealing from. People who limp big pairs should be immediately added to your buddy list, they can very rarely get away post-flop. BTW where do you find these tables?

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Often in home games.

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Ghazban and several others nailed the answer to this. What's not to like about a game like this? Just limp along with them with all kinds of hands that can flop big and bust 'em when you hit.

My new prayer:

Oh Lord please give me more tables full of loose-passive weakies who love to limp their AA & KK after 3 limpers and then hold onto them with a death grip when I flop 2-pair with my 83o in the SB. If you do, I promise to never use your name in vain again when some donk calls my 3-bet w/AA and hits a TT2 flop to his ATo.

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I'm describing a game where they don't hang onto overpairs or TPTK with a death grip and are capable of folding those hands. No one stacks off with anything worse than two pair unless they are trying to protect against a draw or have already committed a good percentage of their stack to the pot, and they will sometimes lay down two pair to a check-raise, but I can't bluff players off of too many pots because they are always multiway and a lot of people slowplay (but they slowplay inappropriately, as with a set on a draw-heavy flop).

These are games filled with what they call nut peddlers, right? They seem pretty pointless to me and I still can't see how it can be anywhere near as profitable as a loose aggressive game for a skilled player (but might be better for players whose leaks are more exposed in different sorts of games, and maybe my own leaks are more exposed in these games).