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"The behavior of an adult will often seem unreasonable to a child."

Especially when it is. What was reasonable about turning Lot's wife into a pillar of salt for the apparently unpardonable crime of looking behind her at the results of His wrath? He obviously relished doing it. Why would he instruct her not to look back? If I tell you don't look at that window, the first thing most people will do is try to take a peek at the window.

Re: To Christians (not an attack, but an honest query)
 

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He obviously relished doing it.


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Where do you find this?

God's real view of those who disobey:

" Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked," declares the Lord GOD, "rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?

Re: To Christians (not an attack, but an honest query)
 

God told Lot and his wife not to look back. Why? What was the crime in looking back? What made her "wicked" by looking back? Was it a crime worthy of a horrible, suffocating death? A logical explanation for telling them not to look back is that he was trying to entice them to do so. Perhaps to test them to see if they would obey.

For someone who preferred that the wicked would turn from their ways and live, he sure killed a lot of them before they might have repented. And a lot of them who weren't wicked. Lot's wife, for example. Or the first born sons of the Egyptians. What evil did, say, a four-year old do to the Jews to merit such punishment?

A god who kills so often must relish in it. Perhaps he felt that he created them, so he could destroy them if they diappointed him. As for your quote, and others like it, which fly in the face of the evidence of his deeds, he doth protest too much.

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Was it a crime worthy of a horrible, suffocating death?


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Where do you get this?

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For someone who preferred that the wicked would turn from their ways and live, he sure killed a lot of them before they might have repented.


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Your timing is better than God's? Why don't you apply for His job?

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What evil did, say, a four-year old do to the Jews to merit such punishment?


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Not all physical death is due to a particular sin.

God is patient and slow to anger. The Bible is filled with the love and mercies of God, Old and New Testament. He also is a God of righteous anger. No human deserves to live. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No one is righteous. God could wipe out the entire human race today without compromising His justice or His love. He decides the time of each person's death.

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A god who kills so often must relish in it.


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Where do you get this?

Re: To Christians (not an attack, but an honest query)
 

"No human deserves to live. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No one is righteous. God could wipe out the entire human race today without compromising His justice or His love."

It is important that everyone read this. It is the axiom that makes it impossible to beat Not Ready in some debates. Now that should not be particularly troubling to those of us who think that the statement above should not really be an axiom. It just means that there is no point in arguing with Not Ready about things where he can invoke it. People like Peter666 and maybe BluffThis, though, have a bigger problem because then won't completely admit that the axiom is a crock.

Re: To Christians (not an attack, but an honest query)
 

"No human deserves to live. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No one is righteous. God could wipe out the entire human race today without compromising His justice or His love."

Notice by the way, that from this immediately follows the idea that there is little difference between Ghandi and Manson. They both deserve to die. Psychologically speaking, what type of person benefits most from that sort of thinking?

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No human deserves to live. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No one is righteous. God could wipe out the entire human race today without compromising His justice or His love. He decides the time of each person's death.



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How exactly can someone "deserve" or "not deserve" to live? Doesn't worthiness imply existance? How can something which doesn't exist yet be deemed deserving or undeserving?

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No human deserves to live. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No one is righteous. God could wipe out the entire human race today without compromising His justice or His love. He decides the time of each person's death.


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amen brother

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what type of person benefits most from that sort of thinking?


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This question only makes sense if my statement is the only truth in the Bible.

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God told Lot and his wife not to look back. Why? What was the crime in looking back? What made her "wicked" by looking back? Was it a crime worthy of a horrible, suffocating death? A logical explanation for telling them not to look back is that he was trying to entice them to do so. Perhaps to test them to see if they would obey.


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why exactly would God need to test them as he would already know the result of the test w/o doing it
God does not test us like that him testing us would be contradictory of his foreknown knowledge