Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...
 

the shortstack isnt a short enough stack. i dont like it unless you have a good read

Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...
 

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the shortstack isnt a short enough stack. i dont like it unless you have a good read

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Yeah, I guess so because he ended up winning the SnG [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] (long story of course but suffice it to say it involved Q9o sucking out on my QQ).

Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...
 

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... except for maybe the freemoney principle. My image is good, and this player both did not give me reason to believe he would minraise a big pair and was not a super calling station. There is nothing in my history at this table that would make it seem like I might pull this, and I've never played with Button before.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

Button (t2030)
SB (t8650)
Hero (t2240)
UTG (t580)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2215</font>,

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What is freemoney principle.

Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...
 

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What is freemoney principle.

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Use the search function for subject only.

Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...
 

I like the push when you have plenty of chips to withstand someone making a poor call (which seems to happen all the time). With just a few hundred more then the 3rd place guy, I don't know how much I like this play. Seems like the risk:reward ratio is pretty high here.

Brad

Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...
 

i dont think theres any way this play can be right.

Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...
 

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i dont think theres any way this play can be right.

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really?

I think it's right against most opponents.

Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...
 

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I think it's right against most opponents.

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Jman, you play at high buy-ins. I'm guessing that Durron's post is from a $16 buy-in. I'm going to re-post a hand that I just posted from a game I just played on a PP $11.

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Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 9: TOMMYTBONE7 ( $1373 )
Seat 6: HERO ( $835 )
Seat 7: SwHiFi ( $925 )
Seat 8: bigdaddykdp ( $4867 )







Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2s Ah ]
HERO folds.
SwHiFi calls [200].
bigdaddykdp calls [100].
TOMMYTBONE7 is all-In [1173]
SwHiFi is all-In [725]
bigdaddykdp folds.




** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 5d, 6c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]





TOMMYTBONE7 shows [ Td, Ac ] two pairs, tens and sixes.
SwHiFi shows [ 2h, 2d ] two pairs, sixes and twos.
TOMMYTBONE7 wins 448 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, tens and sixes.
TOMMYTBONE7 wins 2050 chips from the main pot with two pairs, tens and sixes.
SwHiFi finished in fourth place.

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In this hand, BB pushed after two limpers with the bigstack still in the hand. The initial LIMPER called him with 22. Are you kidding me??? Two points:

1) People at low buy-ins are idiots. Don't expect them to suddenly get smart on you and fold when they should.

2) Because they are idiots, FPS stuff like this is completely unnecessary.

Re: Ok, I am CERTAIN this hand is obvious...
 

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I think it's right against most opponents.

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Jman, you play at high buy-ins. I'm guessing that Durron's post is from a $16 buy-in. I'm going to re-post a hand that I just posted from a game I just played on a PP $11.

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Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 9: TOMMYTBONE7 ( $1373 )
Seat 6: HERO ( $835 )
Seat 7: SwHiFi ( $925 )
Seat 8: bigdaddykdp ( $4867 )







Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2s Ah ]
HERO folds.
SwHiFi calls [200].
bigdaddykdp calls [100].
TOMMYTBONE7 is all-In [1173]
SwHiFi is all-In [725]
bigdaddykdp folds.




** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 5d, 6c ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]





TOMMYTBONE7 shows [ Td, Ac ] two pairs, tens and sixes.
SwHiFi shows [ 2h, 2d ] two pairs, sixes and twos.
TOMMYTBONE7 wins 448 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, tens and sixes.
TOMMYTBONE7 wins 2050 chips from the main pot with two pairs, tens and sixes.
SwHiFi finished in fourth place.

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In this hand, BB pushed after two limpers with the bigstack still in the hand. The initial LIMPER called him with 22. Are you kidding me??? Two points:

1) People at low buy-ins are idiots. Don't expect them to suddenly get smart on you and fold when they should.

2) Because they are idiots, FPS stuff like this is completely unnecessary.

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I just had 67 in the BB, blinds 15/30. I've got like 600 (I setted queens on the flop and the board four-straighted [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] ). Tons of limpers, flop comes 455 rainbow. SB checks, I check, guy to my right (don't remember if he was UTG or not, but trust me $5 + .5 people don't know if they're UTG) bets t120, and it folds around to me. This is an easy push for me because I know 99% no donkey bets out with a 5 there. He calls with KJo...

Almost forgot first rule of low-limit SnGs--I bet because they'll call.

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I guess I'm the only one who thinks that the risk / reward ratio of this play is a little off. I know that your move is predicated on the presence of the small stack, but I'm not a big fan of it for that very reason. Putting your tournament at risk on the hopes that your opponent has a brain seems a little FPS to me actually.

Granted, button mini-raised, but he did it with the super bigstack still to act in the SB. He could've simply laid back and tried to fold ITM, so he obviously has SOMETHING. Why risk your tournament (essentially) on the hope that he folds?

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