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winky51 08-11-2005 11:46 PM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
Hmm interesting. I will keep that in mind. But at the very least I would have to switch tables.

It is my belief, and experience, that when you look invincible at a table you can bluff more and take down pots. Also your opponents bluff less and generally only raise you with great hands. Sure you get the constant bluffer at the table but at that point they are so frustrated that it is easy to play against them. They try to muscle you out of every hand, easy to play and profitable. Which only improves your image as you are sucking the life out of the bluffer.

When your running bad I see more bluff attempts, thus harder decisions. Folding one pot an hour I shouldnt is quite a bit of money lost (BB per 100).

You can't bluff, which takes away income. llayers have called me down with K high at times when I am sure they missed the flop also.

I'm sure you all will say as long as there are fish at the table you stay. For me I rarely see a recovery. What I do see is continued bad beats. Like tonight [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TheMetetron 08-11-2005 11:48 PM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
I don't know about $5/10, but there is no variance at $10/20. All you have to do is run insanely good.

winky51 08-11-2005 11:49 PM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
I was just about to ask that.

winky51 08-11-2005 11:55 PM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
Well I just read another post about 5/10 and players talking about 150BB downswings in a couple days.

WOW. Guess I am limiting myself.

wackjob 08-11-2005 11:55 PM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
I think you sound very unsure of yourself. Maybe you should play lower limits until you have a fairly oversized BR for the next limit. For some reason what you are saying just sounds like a lack of confidence.

The other good thing that someone else pointed out was: leave a table when there are BETTER players at it than you even if there are 1 or 2 easy fish. I'd much rather avoid other good players than fish in the same pond with 1 or 2 other good players. At limits like 3/6 & 5/10 there are an abundance of tables all the time, and most of them will have at least 1-2 fish.

One other question: Do you play B&M? If so, do you put a hardcap on loss/win there?

TheMetetron 08-11-2005 11:59 PM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think you sound very unsure of yourself. Maybe you should play lower limits until you have a fairly oversized BR for the next limit. For some reason what you are saying just sounds like a lack of confidence.

[/ QUOTE ]

Was that aimed at me? I'm guessing not, but just double checking.

wackjob 08-12-2005 12:00 AM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
Yes Met, you sound like a weak fishy putZ! Nah, you make great posts. I was talking about OP.

winky51 08-12-2005 12:06 AM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
Nope. I am very confident about my play. I fear nothing. Since I have been playing 5/10 SH I have done well. But 3 sessions have been a nightmare.

Bad Session #1: 550ish hands 33% win SD
Bad Session #2: 350ish hands 35% win SD
Bad Session #1: 750ish hands 28% win SD

My TAF is over 2. My stats are almost the same as the ones I see on the board. Some of these bad sessions are just really bad. But now I realize that 5/10 SH is that much variance by your posts. Remember I only have 4000 hands. I was at 2.12 BB per 100 just before tonight. I aint afraid of those suckers at 5/10.

Maybe I should stick to $200 NL. I almost never have a bad session. Naw hours of boredom and moments of terror.

TheMetetron 08-12-2005 12:07 AM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yes Met, you sound like a weak fishy putZ! Nah, you make great posts. I was talking about OP.

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If anything, I thought I was too sure of myself; in fact, I know I am. Once I hit that downswing from hell you can all laugh at me.

TheMetetron 08-12-2005 12:09 AM

Re: 5/10 SH variance.
 
2.2 BB/100 over 4000 hands mean squat.

I think at 4000 hands I was still running at like 6.5 BB/100.

Now, I'm at a measily 5bb/100.


2 important things:

1) The long run is super long.

2) Variance is often an excuse for bad play around here. Nobody likes to mention this though.

If you are hitting a huge downswing that early into your 6max career with an unproven winrate, it'd be a mistake to immediately chalk it up to variance. You may have huge leaks even though your stats "match" many of the posters here.


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