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Raising if fine if you want to do that, but fold it to a reraise even if you're getting nice odds to call. Remember, chances are you'll be dominated.

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You absolutely must fold to the min-reraise. You will also get the added benefit of people at your table not necessarily respecting your raises, helping you get paid off when you DO have a monster.

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Unlike some others, I think a fold here is perfectly prudent. KK, QQ, and 66 are all pretty possible. You're not in it for a huge amount of your stack, you don't know who he is, etc. I rarely play at Party, but I think a typical 100 NL player rarely risks his stack on a higher PP (like AA) given the amount oif action you've already given him.

What was the result?

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Unlike some others, I think a fold here is perfectly prudent. KK, QQ, and 66 are all pretty possible. You're not in it for a huge amount of your stack, you don't know who he is, etc. I rarely play at Party, but I think a typical 100 NL player rarely risks his stack on a higher PP (like AA) given the amount oif action you've already given him.

What was the result?

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if you fold here, then what the hell kind of flop are you looking to hit?

short of a flopped straight, it ain't gettin any better than this in terms of getting paid off way more times by misplayed AK and AA then actually being behind.

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if you fold here, then what the hell kind of flop are you looking to hit?

short of a flopped straight, it ain't gettin any better than this in terms of getting paid off way more times by misplayed AK and AA then actually being behind.

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You're right. That's a great flop for your hand. Now, is it the winning hand? Ah, now we're not so sure.

KK is a great hand . . . until it's all in heads up against AA. See what I'm saying?

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99.9% of party 100NL players will do more than just a minraise preflop there with KK and *most* will with QQ, and 66 is just as unlikely given the level of play in this game...the only plausible hands here are AK and AQ and a long shot QQ and given the flop betting, we can eliminate AQ.

if this was a game filled with skilled players at higher stakes i would agree with your logic, but it isnt.

yes, occasionally you will be up against QQ and be drawing nearly dead but at party 100NL you will be up against a pissed off AK WAYYYYYYYYYYY more often

since even though in this situation he may be behind (when someone posts a hand like this, its often safe to assume he lost the hand)....95% of the time you will take the other players entire stack here and get shown AK.

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this is an easy fold.

nobody expect you to drop top two.

and he doesn't know you don't have a set.

you could consider smoothcalling that suspicious half pot flop bet if opponent is really aggressive and capable of 3 betting AK as well as KK, QQ.

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99.9% of party 100NL players will do more than just a minraise preflop there with KK and *most* will with QQ, and 66 is just as unlikely given the level of play in this game...the only plausible hands here are AK and AQ and a long shot QQ and given the flop betting, we can eliminate AQ.

if this was a game filled with skilled players at higher stakes i would agree with your logic, but it isnt.

yes, occasionally you will be up against QQ and be drawing nearly dead but at party 100NL you will be up against a pissed off AK WAYYYYYYYYYYY more often

since even though in this situation he may be behind (when someone posts a hand like this, its often safe to assume he lost the hand)....95% of the time you will take the other players entire stack here and get shown AK.

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I find plenty of party100 players that minraise AA-QQ.

more often than I find players that make a real raise with these hands.

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you dont agree with my claim that even if he is behind in this very specific hand, which he probably is given that he posted it...

he is up against AK a far greater percentage of the time, enough so that the +EV move is to push as the times you are behind KK and QQ are far outweighed by the times that you are way ahead of AK

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I think the number of party players who reraise ak is not that great.

also, I don't think they are that aggressive to 3 bet AK here.

remember, he has no idea you don't have QQ if he has AK. what would you raise him to 25 wth?

does he honestly expect to push you off QQ with a 3 bet trying to convince you of KK?

is he that aggressive/tiltable that he is frustrated that top pair is not best hand? I typically find this to be fairly rare.

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the typical party 100 player does not think on this level.

the vast majority of players are shitting their pants with joy when they get re-raised holding TPTK and are ready to get it all in the middle right then and there.