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45suited 08-10-2005 02:47 PM

Re: Sick bubble call
 
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I call there with JJ+, AK-AQ (because of the high likelihood I'll see an ace).

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Never in a million years would I call with AK or AQ here.

jedinite 08-10-2005 02:52 PM

Re: Sick bubble call
 
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I think the higher the buy in, the more likely it is that you are way ahead here.

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Really? My instint was opposite - that higher buy-ins are less likely to go all-in with a 5x BB raise without something really big when the likely bubble-er is going to be pot committed all-in after posting next hand.

Tough play either way.

You're likely ahead 2-1 here against Ax or Kx and I don't know that I'm going to risk bubbling in this scenario as "only" a 2-1 favorite given that the next hand the shortstack is all-in with any two.

durron597 08-10-2005 02:54 PM

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Never in a million years would I call with AK or AQ here.

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If you had played with this Villian before and you thought he was pushing any A any K 88+ would you call with AK?

nykenny 08-10-2005 02:55 PM

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(because of the drastically increased likelihood raiser is on any two).

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doubtful.

i just recently started experimenting with sngs and i am only playing 109 and 215s. the people i have come accross aren't as inventive as you might like to otherwise believe.

in a steal situation like this, i doubt he will raise too liberally. he would most likely leave the SB to hero if he doesn't have much of a hand. IMO. if he is smart by any measure.

- Kenny

nykenny 08-10-2005 02:57 PM

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Never in a million years would I call with AK or AQ here.

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If you had played with this Villian before and you thought he was pushing any A any K 88+ would you call with AK?

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why would he push with any K? as a big stack?

- Kenny

the_joker 08-10-2005 03:01 PM

Re: Sick bubble call
 
Aces, maybe kings.

UMTerp 08-10-2005 03:01 PM

Re: Sick bubble call
 
I'd push with any K. Why wouldn't he? He assumes you're folding just about anything, and he's better than random against the little stack with some dead money in the pot. Plus it's not the end of the world for him if the little stack doubles or triples up. More time to exploit the bubble.

Heck, my push range there (as the big stack) is something like:

Any pair, any ace or king, any two cards 8 or higher, and connectors down to 76 (suited or not).

If the villain is good, he has a VERY wide range of hands there.

durron597 08-10-2005 03:08 PM

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Heck, my push range there (as the big stack) is something like:

any two cards

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FYP

At least, if I think the SB will fold ever.

schwza 08-10-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Sick bubble call
 
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Really? My instint was opposite - that higher buy-ins are less likely to go all-in with a 5x BB raise without something really big when the likely bubble-er is going to be pot committed all-in after posting next hand.


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a decent player knows that the moderate stack (hero) will fold almost anything to avoid bubbling.

UMTerp 08-10-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Sick bubble call
 
I won't push with the very worst hands there just because of the likelihood that SB will call, but the big stack's range there (and even moreso at higher levels, not the other way around like some of you are saying) is MUCH MUCH wider than a lot of you are giving him credit for.


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