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Nigel 08-07-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
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maybe its just me but WSD 33% seems a bit low and 54% W$SD a bit high?

I've always been told to shoot for 40/50 or so

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I'd say 100/100 is optimal. But if you want to shoot for 40/50, be my guest.

On a serious note, his fold to river bet seems quite high.

Bizot 08-07-2005 12:50 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
you disagree with 40/50 and agree with 30/54?

just voicing my opinion on this one thats all just seems low/high thats all

Guy McSucker 08-07-2005 01:44 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
I think you should definitely give the $5/10 a go, but you should steel yourself for heavy losses if you run bad.

Your stats show that you're running very good at the $3/6: 29% VP$IP with 45% W$WSF is kind of crazy. I've never had >40% W$WSF over any extended stretch and I see far fewer flops than you do (I have 23% VP$IP).

If you hit a rough patch straight away, are you ready for the monetary losses?

Also it appears you have a very aggressive game and often win uncontested by firing on every street. The $5/10ers are on the whole more tenacious which of course wins you more on your good hands but leaves you losing a lot of pots you were hoping to pick up. Think carefully about when to shut down.

Good luck!

Guy.

baronzeus 08-07-2005 01:47 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
38/52 are my stats.

TeeJayORTj 08-07-2005 02:22 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
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Your stats show that you're running very good at the $3/6: 29% VP$IP with 45% W$WSF is kind of crazy. I've never had >40% W$WSF over any extended stretch and I see far fewer flops than you do (I have 23% VP$IP).


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Just as a note on that. I have a measly 35K hands in my database split between 5/10 and 10/20 and with a 33 VPIP I have a W$WSF of almost 44% and a 43/47 for WTSD/W$SD. This will be something I certinly want to look into further once I have a lot more hands.

Anyways I would certinly give 5/10 a try but beware of such a high ATSB. I found my self really aggressive in those situations at 5/10 and still only had my ATSB at 40 (which from what I gather is on the high end)

party36master 08-07-2005 02:46 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
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Your stats show that you're running very good at the $3/6: 29% VP$IP with 45% W$WSF is kind of crazy. I've never had >40% W$WSF over any extended stretch and I see far fewer flops than you do (I have 23% VP$IP).


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Just as a note on that. I have a measly 35K hands in my database split between 5/10 and 10/20 and with a 33 VPIP I have a W$WSF of almost 44% and a 43/47 for WTSD/W$SD. This will be something I certinly want to look into further once I have a lot more hands.

Anyways I would certinly give 5/10 a try but beware of such a high ATSB. I found my self really aggressive in those situations at 5/10 and still only had my ATSB at 40 (which from what I gather is on the high end)

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I will definitely be cautious here. I ended up stealing 50% at 3/6 because many loose player preflop will not defend a hand like middle pair (on the later streets) if high cards flop. Or they will call down w/Ace high when the the board looks ragged, and I've got bottom pair.
And many TAGs will not defend their blinds at all.
I will have adjust this for $5/$10.

Nigel 08-07-2005 03:57 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
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you disagree with 40/50 and agree with 30/54?

just voicing my opinion on this one thats all just seems low/high thats all

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Bizot, I was just making a joke that obviously 100/100 would be what you want to shoot for, not 40/50.

As far as one being better than the other, it's very style and opponent dependent. Also, how you are running will greatly impact these numbers. I don't think it's worth trying to tailor your game too much to meet stat criteria.

Cheers,

Nigel

Also, the W$SD can never be too high.

baronzeus 08-07-2005 04:06 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
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Also, the W$SD can never be too high.

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I disagree with this statement

Monty Cantsin 08-07-2005 04:31 PM

Re: Thinking of moving up to $5/$10: Comment on $3/$6 stats
 
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I ended up stealing 50% at 3/6 because many loose player preflop will not defend a hand like middle pair (on the later streets) if high cards flop.

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How do you know?

Also, this is basically untrue. You don't make much money at 3/6 by getting better hands to fold.

/mc

Nigel 08-07-2005 05:16 PM

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Also, the W$SD can never be too high.

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I disagree with this statement

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Huh????????????


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