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locutus2002 07-14-2005 07:14 PM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
I was implying that without getting into a discussion about players named Phil.

nath 07-14-2005 07:14 PM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
Let's settle this once and for all.

If more than one player is all in in front of you and you have AA, you should fold. With more than one person you are probably not an 80% favorite anymore and you don't want to get your money in with less than that. After all, don't you want to hang out at the WSOP for as long as you can?

imported_bingobazza 07-14-2005 07:22 PM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
I suppose what Im really trying to get at is whether, on this forum, where most would assume, rightly or wrongly, that they are among the best in the tournament, that a fold would be the prevailing preflop action in this position......feck it...I'll do a poll.

Bingo

baby-jesus 07-15-2005 01:00 AM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
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She is a respected player in London, and said on TV that she would fold AA preflop early in the WSOP if faced with 3 all in bets infront of her....Is that a common opinion here?

Bingo

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This thread makes me cry.

BB_Specials 07-15-2005 02:27 AM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
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This thread makes me cry.

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Agreed. If there are a bunch of all-ins before you, cant you assume that they are sharing their cards?
AK KQ QA maybe 88-KK
AA is more likely to hold then isn't it?

I'll go run a simulation...

BB_Specials 07-15-2005 02:31 AM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
Holdem Hi: 850668 enumerated boards

cards %win
A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 50.48
K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9.86
8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 20.30
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9.76
A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8.49

BB_Specials 07-15-2005 02:31 AM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
The only real contention comes from low/mid PP.

locutus2002 07-15-2005 02:47 AM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
Here is a narrow donkish view that illustrates why it could be a fold.

The first donk has QQ and goes all in. (has not read Harrington Vol I)
The second donk has KK and goes all in. (read about Gus Hansen never laying down KK before the flop)
The third donk is a 2+2er and makes the reluctant call with AA only so he can start another thread.

Vicky looks at AA, 40% of the time she goes broke, 60% of the time she doubles up. She's not going to get all her money in on 60/40 in the beginning on one hand.

Donk.

BB_Specials 07-15-2005 03:09 AM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
AA is 67% on KK and QQ. This is also a situation where you would be getting odds as well, or am I wrong?

ijustliketoplay 07-15-2005 07:40 AM

Re: Vicky Coren and pocket AA in WSOP
 
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She is a respected player in London

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LOL


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