Re: missed value with qq?
 

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PS. I think incin called just because of the 4-1 pot odds and implied odds of flopping something like trips, never seen him call with ATo heads up.

[/ QUOTE ] No need to defend his preflop call. It was horrible. And the flop call did show he wasn't just looking for hitting trip tens (he's really looking for flopping either TTx with x being T or smaller, AA+(A/T) or KQJ(preferably with no flush possible). Those are his implied odds flops, and he really really shouldn't be calling off 5% of his stack looking for them.)

Re: missed value with qq?
 

I hate getting two smooth calls on the flop, but I also hate giving a free card to a flush draw/ace/king. I think I just push the turn here and hope there is no set out there. Or maybe bet 80 on the turn. Im committed if I put 80 in though.

Tough spot.

Re: missed value with qq?
 

Personally I think the turn check is terrible. A set's all your worried about. In a threeway pot most players aren't going to check a set on that flop, and if they do, they'll almost certainly do it with the intention of check-raising. You're missing a ton of value from draws and/or a ten (which by all rights your opponent shouldn't have, although he did in this case.) Push the turn.

Re: missed value with qq?
 

Half pot the turn, fold to a raise, check behind on river.

Since you checked the river and they checked to you, value bet the river (1/3 to 1/2 pot), you could easily be read for a missed AK at that point.

If you insist on putting them on aces or kings don't bother betting the flop.

Re: missed value with qq?
 

Push all in on the turn. If either player had KK or AA pre-flop, they would have raised. It doesn't look like anyone would have two pairs by this turn, and the turn card isn't a club, and it didn't really fill out a straight so PUSH. There's $141 in that pot bro! Checking here is fatal. Checking the river after they've both checked again should be the 11th commandment. I don't play near the 200 nl level and this play is surprising. Is the level really this fishy?