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grandgnu 06-26-2005 09:18 PM

Re: How many bets am I supposed to lose on river this hand?
 
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Very opponent dependent.

99 is dealt 1 way as there are two out there.
J9 is dealt 2 ways
A9 is dealt 6 ways

You have to figure he would play that way with either 99 or J9, so its twice as likely you are beating him, and if he'd play that way with A9 then you are very likely ahead.

After you raise and he reraises, then you need to evaluate how likely it is he'd play that way with A9 - not very likely, or J9 still likely but somewhat less so.

So I'd have raised him at least once and more if he was bad.

-greg

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If he's willing to go to war with Trip 9s - then how much worse do they get?

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Actually, just playing 9/9 in your hand is pretty bad. I get people who call me with crap ALL the friggin time. They'll stick around pre-flop with 5/6/8/9 against my A/A/2/3 double suited raise, and hit a flop of 5/9/J/9/8 or something.

Cleveland Guy 06-26-2005 09:33 PM

Re: How many bets am I supposed to lose on river this hand?
 
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Very opponent dependent.

99 is dealt 1 way as there are two out there.
J9 is dealt 2 ways
A9 is dealt 6 ways

You have to figure he would play that way with either 99 or J9, so its twice as likely you are beating him, and if he'd play that way with A9 then you are very likely ahead.

After you raise and he reraises, then you need to evaluate how likely it is he'd play that way with A9 - not very likely, or J9 still likely but somewhat less so.

So I'd have raised him at least once and more if he was bad.

-greg

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If he's willing to go to war with Trip 9s - then how much worse do they get?

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Actually, just playing 9/9 in your hand is pretty bad. I get people who call me with crap ALL the friggin time. They'll stick around pre-flop with 5/6/8/9 against my A/A/2/3 double suited raise, and hit a flop of 5/9/J/9/8 or something.

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In general, I agree, that playing a 9 in your hand is marignal at best, But a hand like A239 - DS is still playable, and of course A299 or A399- regardless of suits is always playable.

Xelent 06-27-2005 01:45 AM

Re: How many bets am I supposed to lose on river this hand?
 
Also remember he had the kill button and got in for free so he could of had anything.

PokerProdigy 06-27-2005 08:59 PM

Re: How many bets am I supposed to lose on river this hand?
 
I would definitely think you should 3 bet here because there is only one hand to worry about, which is pocket nines which someone is very unlikely to have (because there are 2 nines on board, and many people (especially a "tight/solid player") wouldn't even play the pocket nines even if they were dealt them. Therefore, I am raising and if he 4 bets I would even 5 bet it (if that is allowed in your casino and it would probably also be the max/cap).

Xelent 06-28-2005 12:36 AM

Re: How many bets am I supposed to lose on river this hand?
 
unlimitted raises allowed heads up.

PokerProdigy 06-28-2005 01:16 AM

Re: How many bets am I supposed to lose on river this hand?
 
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unlimitted raises allowed heads up.

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Oh, then I you might want to stop after 5 [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]


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