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Justin A 06-26-2005 12:03 AM

Re: 2-4 game blowing me out!!!!!
 
At a live 2/4 game the rake may very well be unbeatable.

Greg J 06-26-2005 12:22 AM

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i know i can win. i play like a rock when i am suposed to. i play loose in a tight game. i do everything right ( so i think)...

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Okay Jimmy, I am really trying to help when I say this. You need to sit down and be prepared to accept this. Ready?

You suck at poker.

I will repeat: you suck at poker.

It's okay. This does not make you dumb, or a bad person, or a terrorist. But you are demonstrating a COMPLETE lack of something essential to being a good poker play: willingness to listen and take criticism.

I was in a similar position as you once. I didn't understand why I was losing, and I was posting here about it. Then someone (forgot who) told me 1) I sucked at poker, and 2) I needed to accept that before I got better.

I DID suck at poker, but I thought I was good. But sometimes you have to eat it like a good little bitch. So I did. I played more, studied more, and got better. I'm not world class by any means, but I suck considerably less.

Now Jimmy, you have a couple of choices at this point. You can either accept the fact that you are not very good, and use that as motivation to improve, or you can keep losing money. It's yr choice. You are in the right place to get better. But if you refuse to listen and think you are a master of the game, I really have nothing more to add -- except to ask when/where I can get in a game with you.

mat 06-26-2005 12:28 AM

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im to lazy to read all of the responses so i might be a little repetitive...fist of all dont complain about bad beats, if you have spent as much time reading and studying as you say you should know where the money in poker comes from. (other peoples mistakes) as a side note and probably more importantly the rake at the 2/4 game is probably very tough to beat you should try to play online until you can play a bit higher.

TheHip41 06-26-2005 12:28 AM

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Yeah at 10/20 people stop sucking out on you.

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Wrong.

My favorite hand from the 10-20 last night at MCC.

Playing 5 handed. This guy just sat down two hands ago. 3am.

I have 99 on the button. UTG calls, 1 fold, I raise, SB folds, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, I cap. (cap was read specific) BB was very laggy. anyhoo


Flop KQ4 BB checks, UTG checks, I bet, BB folds, UTG calls

Turn 8

UTG checks, I bet, UTG calls.

River J

Final board of KQJ84

UTG checks, I check

UTG has J5o No flush draw. NH [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

adamstewart 06-26-2005 12:36 AM

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At a live 2/4 game the rake may very well be unbeatable.

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Plus tip, and it certainly may be very difficult to beat.



Adam

Jimmy P 06-26-2005 12:51 AM

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Hey chesspain. why is there always some little puke worring about the way others spell? i cant spell so what!!!! does that make me a bad person? if i have to write something the "correct" way i just have my wife do it. so what. its little morons like you who think they know it all. oh well and i love to take advice thank you for saying i suck. that makes me feel real good.lol i am going to try a higher limit game and see what happens. in the mean while i will take your advice and keep reading and practicing...thanks a million for all the good advice you guys. great forum.......Jimmy

zuluking 06-26-2005 01:12 AM

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i am going to try a higher limit game and see what happens.

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Please post when and where and some of us will join you.

MEbenhoe 06-26-2005 01:13 AM

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Hey chesspain. why is there always some little puke worring about the way others spell? i cant spell so what!!!! does that make me a bad person? if i have to write something the "correct" way i just have my wife do it. so what. its little morons like you who think they know it all. oh well and i love to take advice thank you for saying i suck. that makes me feel real good.lol i am going to try a higher limit game and see what happens. in the mean while i will take your advice and keep reading and practicing...thanks a million for all the good advice you guys. great forum.......Jimmy

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If this is really your attitude you are headed down a bad path man. One that's gonna lead to your gambling losses snowballing. I'm guessing your wife already doesn't like the fact that you spend all this time at the casino and never come home a winner. She's may even be starting to question if you have a gambling problem. This isn't the time to get pissed, and just keep pushing.

I know you don't wanna hear it, but just from things you've said so far it is clear you don't understand poker enough to be a winning player right now, but you seem to enjoy and seem to wanna get better which is good.

So if you can put your ego aside for a minute and admit this to yourself then you're ready to learn. My advice to you would be to start playing online at the micro limits. You can learn a lot from these games without putting much stress on your income. Read Homer's post in the internet forum titled "building a bankroll for newbies", follow a lot of the advice in there to help you build up a bankroll. Read all the posts you can in the micro-limit and small stakes forum, and ask educated questions about aspects of your game. Post hands for discussion and attempt to discuss others hands.

Finally you say you've read books. A lot of players have read books, and a lot of players either 1. don't comprehend to the level that they can fully apply what they're reading or 2. are reading the wrong books. There's plenty of books out there that are completely worthless, don't trust everything you read.

Hope that helped.

P.S. the one thing you absolutely should not do right now is attempt to go play a higher limit.

Aeioux 06-26-2005 01:21 AM

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why does it always seem that newbies who suck and complain about bad beats losing to others who chase all way with garbage hands suchas any ace and little pairs also have poor spelling and bad punkuation and dont seem to have a shift key that works?

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brilliant!!!

Sal Allegra 06-26-2005 01:25 AM

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The Rake, Jackpot, and dealer toke may make this 2-4 unbeatable, you'd be better off playing online.


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