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GrekeHaus 06-22-2005 10:29 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
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You're right, I didn't mean the X to be rag. So tell me about:

AK
KQ

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With KQ I still wouldn't put in such a big raise. With AK, I would check here to trap.

Of course, your opponent may not be thinking about what you have. If he actually has a king, but thinks you might be trapping, why would he go all in here? I can't think of a single hand I would have as the villian where I would push here. Thus, my guess is that the villian is thinking:

a) He is afraid of the King, so my Queen is probably good here
b) He is afraid of the King, so my lower pair is good and it might make him fold a bigger pair.
c) I can represent the King and make him fold
d) Me likey push!

wuwei 06-22-2005 10:46 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
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Very quickly calls his queen.

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huh?

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He means your AA is better than his Q.

CaptSensible 06-22-2005 11:02 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
The way my luck has been going I go all in with everything
here except the boat. I would be worried about the flush draw if i flopped the set of K's and don't want to give him room to call his draw hand. If i'm holding the AA I call his all in.

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what could he have???

KQ - he slowplays that for sure
Kx - I think he slowplays that as well
Qx - most likely I think
small pair - also likely
flush draw - possible

I call thinking your two pair is best.

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Now, you're the hero. Except you have the hands mentioned above, what do you do on the flop?

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Luminous Mist 06-23-2005 05:02 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
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Very quickly calls his queen.

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...or naked ace/under pair.

EZ call.

Luminous

GrekeHaus 06-23-2005 05:34 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
That was pretty much what I thought. If the villian has a hand like KJ or KT, I doubt he's worried about you having a better one since all the chips will end up in the middle either way. Since I don't think he would have a King here most of the time, we are likely WAY ahead of any other hand.

Another interesting aspect of the hand which hasn't been discussed is whether or not the hero's check was correct. Thoughts?

Dr_Jeckyl_00 06-23-2005 05:47 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
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what could he have???

KQ - he slowplays that for sure
Kx - I think he slowplays that as well
Qx - most likely I think
small pair - also likely
flush draw - possible

I call thinking your two pair is best.

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If he has KQ there is no need to do anything... slow play, but if he has Kx, Qx he might be worried about flush... I would be... and he wants to take the pot down. He also could have a lower PP. Regardless you have to call this... you're ahead most of the time.

MegaBet 06-23-2005 06:20 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
Definitely call. Even if he has a king (unlikely), you still have 2 outs [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Luminous Mist 06-23-2005 08:44 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
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whether or not the hero's check was correct. Thoughts?

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Somewhat player dependent (and you won't know this early in the tournament). But, yes, check is good here.

Luminous

Bigwig 06-23-2005 10:04 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
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Very quickly calls his queen.

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Heh.

I was going to say, "Call his AQ immediately."

tminus 06-23-2005 10:07 PM

Re: AA on dangerous flop...how do you play this?
 
this is exactly the flop you dont want
get the hell out of there


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