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You mean you are not aware of online poker players' issue with Sen Kyl? You obviously do not visit the zoo enough!

I have not heard what Bush's position on this is.

In any event, online gambling is of already dubious legality in the US, which violates WTO rulings.

Re: Sen. Kyl vs Online Gaming
 

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What's with these Arizona Senators?!

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They're not conservative.

Duh.


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What's with these Arizona Senators?!

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They are R.I.N.O.'s - Republicans In Name Only

Re: Sen. Kyl vs Online Gaming
 

I hope if there's any poker players here from Arizona, that they're writing angry letters to this guy.

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They are R.I.N.O.'s - Republicans In Name Only

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While it may be fair to call them RINOs, let's not pretend there aren't a whole lot of Republicans (see the Christian Right) who have/are currently/will in the future go after gaming interests.

The only national figure who I know that has proposed legislation to legalize internet gaming is Rep. Conyers from Michigan (a Democrat). So I think the Republicans on this board have to take their medicine on this one - when it comes to internet gaming, I've got a pretty good idea where the chips are going to fall, should this ever become a pertinent issue (pardon the pun).

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let's not pretend there aren't a whole lot of Republicans

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Democrats too! The media darlings for 08' Clinton and Warner are both against it, and there are a lot more. This is a money issue and I've never met a politician who can't keep their hands out of our pockets.

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Democrats too! The media darlings for 08' Clinton and Warner are both against it, and there are a lot more. This is a money issue and I've never met a politician who can't keep their hands out of our pockets.

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This is just ‘whataboutary' – in other words, “My side is bad, but what about the other party?

Are there Democrats in favor of banning internet gaming? I know there are. But it doesn’t a whole lot of inquiry to see which party is leading the charge.

As I said in my OP: if you're a Republican, and you're on this board, you should just hang your head and take your lumps on the issue of internet gaming, because I think we can all agree that the Republican party is on the wrong side of it.

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This is just ‘whataboutary' – in other words, “My side is bad, but what about the other party?

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No, it's a cross party issue, I don't care who is leading the charge or involved, they all need a good crack up the side of their heads.

In cases like this and others you Democrats need to do more that just stick your fingers in your ears and shout "It's the Republicans, It's the Republicans"

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No, it's a cross party issue, I don't care who is leading the charge or involved, they all need a good crack up the side of their heads.

In cases like this and others you Democrats need to do more that just stick your fingers in your ears and shout "It's the Republicans, It's the Republicans"


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Two things:
1) Republicans are in power; Republicans are leading the attack against internet gaming. I'll gladly produce empirical evidence, if you don't consider the OP (i.e., Senator Kyl's legislation) to be proof enough.
2) The Democrats aren't in power; so what would you have the Democratic Party do? Even if they were unified in backing the legalization of internet gaming, as you said, the most they could hope to do is stick their fingers in their ears and say "It's the Republicans!"

Why? Because it is the Republicans that are leading the charge against internet gaming, and the Republicans are in control.

To the posters in this thread who are trying in vain to defend the Republicans: if you don't like the state of affairs, your party is in power. Scream and shout about liberals all you want, but they're thoroughly marginalized now. So stand up and take responsibility for the bad things your party does (attempting to criminalize internet gaming, for instance).

No more of the "when things are going bad, both parties are at fault" coupled with the "when things are going well, let’s hold a parade for Republicans" attitude. It's contradictory and disingenuous.

I’m not much of a Democrat. But face facts: unless you’re a conservative Christian or an overly concerned soccer mom, the Republicans suck on internet gaming issues.

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I swear no matter which party is in charge we'd all be better off if congress only met 1 day a year.

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I Agree.

And, BTW, I doubt that Howard, John, Hillary, whomever is going to campaign on a stand that online gaming should be legal and unregulated.

My view - make it (online poker)legal in the US, let the US gaming companies join the online gaming business (they have zero market share, but strong capabilities and credibility), and regulate it the same way we regulate casino gaming.

Why not? Moral issues. Sure, it is not a productive cause and is, perhaps, a societal detriment. But American citizens deserve the right to choose (IMO).