Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

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Why didn't you lead the flop? I think it might give you more information on where your at. Hope this helps.

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Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

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if you call, you are gonna look at top set...

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Only top set? False.

Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

Villian must have tilted like mad after this hand. Haha.

Nice suckout.

I call here too...

Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

lol its a unanimous fold because you showed the results that villian had AA, do it 6 months from now and give villian something like A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and those same people would say this is a tough call but i make it.

Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

There are two hands that I see played this way a lot. Though not from a preflop raiser...most of the time on these monotone boards: sets and non-nut (baby) flushes. Mostly though the all in is after a bet from someone else...

Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

this really is an easy fold

Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

How does he catch his flush and fill the villian up with the same card given this board?!?!

Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

if he has a set, you're 2.5-1 against.

this gives you equity of about 314 of pot.

if he has a flush, you're 2.17-1 against.

this gives you equity of about 347 of pot.

if he has AK, you have around equity of 2/3 pot (2/3 you chop, 1/3 you win whole thing, which is 1/2(2/3) + 1/3 = 2/3 pot) which is 733.

if he has Ax, with a spade with that A, then you are a 9-1 favorite, which means you baiscally own 990 of pot.

so let's see...you have to call 521

1st scenario, you have EV of -207
2nd scenario, you have EV of -174
3rd scenario, you have EV of +212
4th scenario, you have EV of +469
now assign likelihoods of the hands.

i'd say, being very lenient, he has a set with this move maybe 60% of the time, Ax with a spade 10%, a flush 20% of the time, and AK 10% of the time. and i'm being generous with the Ax spade and AK here.

.6(-207) + .2(-174) + .1(212) + .1(469) = -90.9

i'd say a fold is in order...

Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

there are two cards to come buddy. not one.

Re: TPTK + nut flush draw - Call this gross overbet?
 

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There are two hands that I see played this way a lot. Though not from a preflop raiser...most of the time on these monotone boards: sets and non-nut (baby) flushes. Mostly though the all in is after a bet from someone else...

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And the hand that our hero had: TP+nut flush draw.