Re: Call, call, call... Can this be right?
 

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Would a raise on the flop be considered incorrect? If so, why?

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Raising this flop would result in one of 2 scenarios:

1.) If the villian has just ace high or a worse hand (like jacks) than you they will likely check/fold the turn.

2.) If the villian has you beaten or destroyed (AA/any queen) you will either be 3-bet on the flop or check/raised on the turn.

You would like to show this hand down as there is a very good chance you are ahead.

Since a raise would cause a hand you are ahead of to slow down you win less when you are ahead.

Since you don't really know which it is (and often times you won't heads up as some players are very aggressive with hands which you beat) you'd prefer to win the maximum possible and lose the least possible.

Re: Call, call, call... Can this be right?
 

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This may sound corny, but it depends on how the night is going for me. Have you ever had one of those nights that you just run really cold or really hot? If I'm having an off night, I play it the same way. If I'm having a good night, I raise the flop to see his reaction. A 3-bet from him and I play the turn and river the same.

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You really should try not to alter your play when you are having a good/bad night. This will often cause you to lose more when you are having a bad night or win less when you're having a good night. In this case it looks like you play this hand better on your off nights [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Call, call, call... Can this be right?
 

I would raise the flop. If re-raised I would call down. Folding to a re-raise is probably the smart move, but I have been seeing so many psychos lately at Empire .5/1 that I don't think I could let it go to one opponent.

Re: Call, call, call... Can this be right?
 

I like your line of play and think that you chose an excellent hand for your first post.

Your hand seems to provide a very clear example of the best way to approach a WA/WB situation.

Welcome to the forums and I look forward to reading your further posts. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Call, call, call... Can this be right?
 

Ah. I see the light.

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In these sorts of cases, the standard line is either to just call all the way down as long as villain keeps leading, with the possibility of raising the river if the board is to your liking.
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Curious, is there any card other than a K that would cause you to want to raise the river?

Re: Call, call, call... Can this be right?
 

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Ah. I see the light.

quote from a previous post:
In these sorts of cases, the standard line is either to just call all the way down as long as villain keeps leading, with the possibility of raising the river if the board is to your liking.
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Curious, is there any card other than a K that would cause you to want to raise the river?

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A 3rd Queen.

KO

Re: Call, call, call... Can this be right?
 

If I knew the opponent were a LAG or if I had seen him keep firing away with an unimproved AK before, I would probably raise the river on this actual hand.

If UTG+1 had simply limped/called PF, I would raise the river practically every time against an unknown.

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Seems like a straightforward application of WA/WB. I like it.

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What is this WA/WB that you speak of? I've seen it used in a couple threads but still haven't figured out what style it is representing.

Re: Call, call, call... Can this be right?
 

WA/WB stands for Way Ahead or Way Behind

It seems to refer to when both you or your opponent have few outs to improve your hand in a heads up situation, and you dont know who is currently ahead.

The standard line is to check/call to showdown so that you lose the least when you are behind and win the most when you are ahead.

Here is a link to a good thread which discusses WA/WB thoroughly:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=1#Post2206499

Re: Call, call, call... Can this be right?
 

Great, thanks!