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mach3 05-07-2005 02:10 PM

Re: 15/30 hand vs. 2+2er
 
You played it wrong. Preflop - fine. Flop - raise, see where you stand, perhaps take a free card.

What bothers me most is the river. You check/call the flop and turn, then hit your 6 outer on the river and don't pop a raise?

elindauer 05-07-2005 04:59 PM

Re: 15/30 hand vs. 2+2er
 
Fold the flop. He caught you stealing with a weak hand and you totally missed. If you're going to play, you need to raise now or on the turn.

Fold the turn. You don't have odds to draw. If you're going to play, raising is the only option, as calling is clearly -EV.

Raise the river expecting to be paid off by a middle pocket pair. Nice catch.


Good luck.
Eric

elindauer 05-07-2005 05:05 PM

Re: 15/30 hand vs. 2+2er
 
[ QUOTE ]
You played it wrong. Preflop - fine. Flop - raise, see where you stand, perhaps take a free card.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is terrible advice. You have queen high no draw. How much money do you need to put into the pot to know where you stand? I can tell you already without putting in one penny... you have the worst hand.

Besides, how does raising tell you where you are? If he calls, well, maybe he has a seven, or maybe a pair, or perhaps he has you dominated with AQ. Maybe he'll fold that on the turn. Maybe not. Maybe he has a spade draw that's higher than your queen high, or maybe lower. If he reraises, ummm, maybe any of the hands I just mentioned. Great. How much did that cost again?

Good luck.
Eric

mach3 05-07-2005 06:03 PM

Re: 15/30 hand vs. 2+2er
 
I was giving advice based on how he played the hand - which was check/call all the way down... That's no way to win a hand. SB likely had a med PP and poster hit's his out on the river - why no raise?


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