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Argus 04-21-2005 01:26 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll
 
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If you're singling, then 30 buy-ins is probably more than enough, & if you're 2 tabling then probably double.

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Why does multi-tabling double your variance?

ZimbuTheMonkey 04-21-2005 01:27 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll
 
I'm comfortable with four-tabling in the ring games. But I usually stick to 2-3.

Scuba Chuck 04-21-2005 01:31 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll
 
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I'm comfortable with four-tabling in the ring games. But I usually stick to 2-3.

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Then, once you're comfortable, this is what you'll do here.

By the way, what kind of $/hr were you making in ring games 3 tabling? I ask as I am considering a transition to ring games on occasion.

ZimbuTheMonkey 04-21-2005 01:35 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll
 
In NL at the moment, I have 7.8BB/100 with 17k hands. I used to have much more data, but it's all on my old hard drive. I don't play limit anymore, but I'll start it back up soon.

What is your winrate at the SNGs?

Degen 04-21-2005 01:36 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll
 
these guys are pretty tight w/ the bankroll stuff. 500 will be plenty for the 22's and 33's if you are planning in some good hours, may not be enuff to go pro on but few swings dip below the ~20 buy-in level

good luck

Degen

Scuba Chuck 04-21-2005 01:44 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll
 
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In NL at the moment, I have 7.8BB/100

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So what does that jargon mean?

What are my success rates?

When I 4 tabled the $33s, I was in the mid 20% ROI range. I averaged about 5.3 games an hour.

Beginning this month, I made a commitment to only play the $55s. It's been a rough start. Through only 228 games, my ROI is 10%. I also don't think I average 5.3 games an hour anymore. More to report in another 6-8 weeks, when I can get 1500-2000 games (at the $55s) under my belt.

Scuba Chuck 04-21-2005 01:51 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll?
 
Here's my general bankroll guidelines. IMO, the number of tables you're playing has very little impact on your requred roll.

$300-$600 (10/1 SNGs)
$600-$1000 (20/2 SNGs)
$1000-$1700 (30/3 SNGs)
$1700-$3500 (50/5 SNGs)
$3500-$7000 (100/9 SNGs)
$7000+ (200/15 SNGs)

ZimbuTheMonkey 04-21-2005 02:11 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll
 
Just tried a 20+2... got busted two off the money, I was shortstacked and had to pull a move, unfortunately it was at a wrong time...

EDIT: It must get discouraging losing 4-5 in a row. It seems like you invest so much time, only for nothing, when you're booted out.

The Yugoslavian 04-21-2005 02:19 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll
 
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If you're singling, then 30 buy-ins is probably more than enough, & if you're 2 tabling then probably double.

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What? This is just wrong.

You only need a bigger bankroll if your ROI/ITM is plummeting. In fact.....you can give a good bankroll guideline without even *knowing* one's ROI and ITM...just that he/she is a winning player.

Scuba posted a good one I believe. It looks familiar though...[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img].

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Yugoslav

Apathy 04-21-2005 02:25 AM

Re: Thinking of moving from ring games to SNG, what is a safe bankroll
 
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It must get discouraging losing 4-5 in a row. It seems like you invest so much time, only for nothing, when you're booted out.

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4 or 5 in a row? If my worst streak every day was 4-5 in a row I'm whistling a happy tune.


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