Re: Hmmm AQs hand
 

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Re: Hmmm AQs hand
 

The check raise of the flop was interesting, guess that's the better way to do it since the pre-flop aggressor is to your left.

I'm also not sure of the check on the River, what happens if both decide to check through? Of course I'd expect you to raise if it comes back to you for a single bet.

As far as reads, if villian had a set he's just not betting it, so it's more likely he's got AK top pair, maybe two pair AQ, AJ. I doubt that he has the KT for a straight. MP3 has me confused, cold calling raises, he could be on a flush draw spades but really who knows, if he shows aggression like raising a river bet by Villian I'd suspect he has a straight.

Re: Hmmm AQs hand
 

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Why aren't people putting villain on AK?

He's 25/8/1.2. Which means he's TA-passive. He won't cap it on the flop with an AK, most likely.

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With 30 hands of stats on this guy using the aggression factor is pretty much useless. 30 hands, he's put money in 25% of the time so we have very few hands to judge his postflop aggression on.

I'd also bet the river.

Re: Hmmm AQs hand
 

Bet the river. Call a raise.

Re: Hmmm AQs hand
 

I didn't put him on AK because I think AK would be playing this flop a lot more aggressively. There's an obvious straight draw, and allowing people to see a cheap turn card that could very well ruin his hand seems like a mistake.

He could have been waiting to see if a safe turn card came before committing a lot of money to the pot, but the turn card isn't safe at all with now a flush draw to worry about as well... unless villain has spades.

That's why I ruled out AK. So KQ[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] seems most likely.

Results
 

Hmm interesting that so many people fear a check through here. He isn't going to check a set or AQ/AJ. I doubt he will check AK as well. Anyway the main reason why I checked was to see what MP3 would do. Had it gone bet-fold behind me I would have called. If MP3 had T8 (a possible hand) and made a straight I wanted to know. I figure I'm probably good/tied (but again I don't want to get into a spew fest HU in case he is slowplaying me or whatever) when the villian just calls my turn 3-bet and I want MP3's money going into the pot more then anything. I'm still very much open to betting though and I'll read the replies more in-depth in a bit. Here is the river action.

River: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] checks, Villian bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, Villian calls, MP3 calls.

Villian has AQ for the chop chop.
MP3 has A4 for one pair.

Brad

Re: Results
 

Told you you should have bet =p

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Your gonna look dumb when he checks through with AK. Not enough hands to really judge his postflop aggression factor though. I either wind up looking like a genius or an idiot when I try these plays, but more times the idiot. I think you have a better idea than me when they will work though, so its probably worth a try. The problem I think is if unknown MP3 is the one to bet the river. Then you don't know what to do.

Ok just read the results and you look like a genius but it worked out the best possible way. Well I guess you are pretty good at picking these spots. I don't know why you got a strange reaction though, they must not be this cool.

Oh I 3 bet preflop.

-DeathDonkey

Re: Results
 

Aweome this Checkraise worked out for you. I don't really know if villain will bet enough times after you've 3-bet him on the turn. Glad it worked out well.