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Boris 03-04-2005 06:33 PM

Re: Generic NL overpair situation
 
You might want to consider underbetting the pot here in order to keep it smaller. Maybe try a $20-25 bet?

partygirluk 03-04-2005 07:10 PM

Re: Generic NL overpair situation
 
Seems like against his range of hands you are either way behind, or slightly ahead. I find this so difficult because you probably have to fold, or call, then fold most of the time on the turn. But this seems horribly weak tight with AA Heads Up. And his min raise could just be a probe bet with a pair, looking to see if you just have big cards. Or, he could figure this flop must scare the sh1t out of you, and be on a cold bluff.......

Would be really interested in the thoughts of some of the forum gurus on this one.

soah 03-04-2005 07:22 PM

Re: Generic NL overpair situation
 
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I was playing $1000 PL 6 max last night. I raise to $25 preflop

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Eh?

getmoney111 03-04-2005 07:49 PM

Re: Generic NL overpair situation
 
^ He was playing pot limit.

Paluka 03-04-2005 07:56 PM

Re: Generic NL overpair situation
 
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You might want to consider underbetting the pot here in order to keep it smaller. Maybe try a $20-25 bet?

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This might be correct, I went the other direction and overbet because the board was draw-heavy, but maybe I was going the wrong way with it.

partygirluk 03-04-2005 08:42 PM

Re: Generic NL overpair situation
 
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You might want to consider underbetting the pot here in order to keep it smaller. Maybe try a $20-25 bet?

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This might be correct, I went the other direction and overbet because the board was draw-heavy, but maybe I was going the wrong way with it.

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Isn't underbetting just asked to get taken off the hand? If anything, I think checking behind is superior to betting small.

soah 03-04-2005 11:09 PM

Re: Generic NL overpair situation
 
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^ He was playing pot limit.

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Then he should raise to $35.

VanVeen 03-05-2005 01:35 AM

Re: Generic NL overpair situation
 
If your opponent is holding a pair and a draw I would think he'd be more inclined to put a lot of pressure on you right here on the flop with a pot-sized raise. He has to leverage some folding equity or the hand isn't worth continuing with out of position - he just won't get any action when his hand is completed.

With that in mind, I fold this hand against an unknown. I think he has a monster.

VanVeen 03-05-2005 02:22 AM

Re: Generic NL overpair situation
 
"And his min raise could just be a probe bet with a pair"

Decent players generally don't min-raise as a countermeasure against overcards stealing the pot with a continuation bet. They flat call or make a MANLY raise! Min-raising possible overcards isn't good for the winrate, especially (!) when first to act on the next street.


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