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bottomset 02-13-2005 07:25 PM

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No Sykes I have to disagree here. A percentage above 60 indicates that are folding too many winning hands at showdown.

A long run win$@SD percentage of 70% increases that you are folding WAYYYY too many winning hands at showdown, and only going there with the nuts or near nuts.

Maybe you don't have enough hands for your W$ASD for be to significant yet. Either it's that or it's what I said above.

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1500 hands. I know that's probably not enough but w/e. It is around 60% (give or take a couple %). Please remember that I'm very tight pre-flop and very aggressive on the flop so when I do see a flop, I'm usually seeing a river most of the time if it's correct to do so. Thus 60% is not that hard to do. I don't see why 60% is a hard number to grasp.

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you don't grasp the basic structure of Limit Holdem makes a 70% WSD a horrible idea, 60% is borderline but could just be a good run of cards .. you always get better that 2/1 odds on any call, you have to make calls that you lose 80-95% of the time to get good winrates, they drive down you WSD% but profits up .. its never about how many pots you win but total money won .. you leave a lot of money by passing on all those situations

Sykes 02-13-2005 07:28 PM

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No Sykes I have to disagree here. A percentage above 60 indicates that are folding too many winning hands at showdown.

A long run win$@SD percentage of 70% increases that you are folding WAYYYY too many winning hands at showdown, and only going there with the nuts or near nuts.

Maybe you don't have enough hands for your W$ASD for be to significant yet. Either it's that or it's what I said above.

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1500 hands. I know that's probably not enough but w/e. It is around 60% (give or take a couple %). Please remember that I'm very tight pre-flop and very aggressive on the flop so when I do see a flop, I'm usually seeing a river most of the time if it's correct to do so. Thus 60% is not that hard to do. I don't see why 60% is a hard number to grasp.

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you don't grasp the basic structure of Limit Holdem makes a 70% WSD a horrible idea, 60% is borderline but could just be a good run of cards .. you always get better that 2/1 odds on any call, you have to make calls that you lose 80-95% of the time to get good winrates, they drive down you WSD% but profits up .. its never about how many pots you win but total money won .. you leave a lot of money by passing on all those situations

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I don't fold on the river most of the time. Usually if I call the turn with a made hand, I'm also calling the river. I don't recall a time where I've folded on the river and beat myself up because I would have won.

waynethetrain 02-13-2005 08:38 PM

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Actually I am looking for the win percentage per hand played - not just at showdown. I know it's a meaningless stat in terms of winning money. What I am trying to guage is what percentage of the time tight aggressive players actually win so I can sort of guage if I've been running bad or good relative to norm if I am winning 6% of all the hands I have played in games averaging 4 players to the flop.

Sykes 02-13-2005 08:40 PM

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6% is fine. I am at 6% also and I probably play on the tight side.

topspin 02-13-2005 09:40 PM

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I don't fold on the river most of the time.

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I don't see why 60% is a hard number to grasp.

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definately should be around 70%

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No offense, but if all of the above statements are true for you, then you are on the world's biggest hot streak.

davelin 02-13-2005 10:23 PM

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1500 hands

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'Nuff said


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