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BusterStacks 11-20-2004 01:54 PM

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So now the backtracking begins. I'm just asking you to quantify your statement, so how about you do that for me.

Over 80% of Christians have a neutral stance towards pornography?

Justin A 11-20-2004 01:55 PM

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Prove me wrong. I was raised Roman Catholic and I do not know anyone that is anti-porn. My dad almost became a priest, spent several years in a Seminary, and he has no problem with porn. I have lots of friends that were also raised in religious households of numerous christian denominations. All of us laughed at the anti-porn people. I don't know anyone my age, or even know someone that knows someone my age that is anti-porn. If you want to find anti-porn people your best shot is to walk into a Baptist church.

You will see alot of Christian people that still consider porn a bit taboo, but they do not consider it immoral. (And almost all of them have some form of porn.) The taboo, I think is a good thing as it promotes restraint and control.

Maybe taboo isn't the perfect word, but I think you know what I mean. They prefer discretion.

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You are so grossly wrong that I don't even know where to begin.

Justin A

wacki 11-20-2004 02:09 PM

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I would say it's more or less neutral for 80%. I would be carefull putting a statistic on Christians fealings against porn. If you simply polled my dad and asked him if he thought it was a sin, I would not be suprised if he said yes. At the same time, he came to the aid and strongly defended a man that was in trouble for surfing a porn website at work. If it wasn't for my dad, that man would of lost his job. Somethings simply don't transfer well to paper. I would not be suprised if this was one of them. It's a unique situation. If there was a poll of Christians, it would have to be phrased very carefully. Porn is taboo, but it is not a huge deal. It's hard to explain. Alot of things in the Bible are read wrong.

Alot of people think that divorce doesn't exist in the Bible. This isn't true. Even Mosses granted a divorce to a large group of Jews. God doesn't like divorce, in fact he seems to hate it, but he puts up with it. Try your hardest to refrain, but if the situation gets too tough to deal with, he will understand. A lot of stuff that is in the Bible is read way to literally by a lot of the more high profile people. It's not like that in your average Roman Catholic church. It's a very complex situation.... Will type more later, I have to go to the lab.

wacki 11-20-2004 02:10 PM

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You are so grossly wrong that I don't even know where to begin.

Justin A

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No, I think I am right. What you see on TV, or in the news, is not your typical Christian.

Glenn 11-20-2004 02:12 PM

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I don't disagree that the majority of Christians don't view things such as pornography as major threats to society. The problem is, their religious leaders and political leaders do, and they don't speak out against these radical stances. As I'm sure you know, almost all versions of Christianity don't encourage discussion about moral issues. It is more a of a "do what you're told" kind of deal. The leaders of the chruches, who are more extreme in their views, set the morals of their members, and they, in turn, elect people who set the morals for society. This is what makes the Christian machine so dangerous. The extreme views of a few charismatic religious leaders are represented by a near majority of the legislature.

Alobar 11-20-2004 02:59 PM

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You are so grossly wrong that I don't even know where to begin.

Justin A

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No, I think I am right. What you see on TV, or in the news, is not your typical Christian.

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Your whole argument is so absurd that you are either a complete idiot or just trolling, I really hope its the latter. It's also so stupid that I'm not going to waste my time showing you how wrong it is. because anyone who actually knows anything about the chruch or actually knows someone who is a true christian, knows the gross misconception that is your earlier post.

Matty 11-20-2004 03:22 PM

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The vast majority of Christians are more than ok with porn.

[/ QUOTE ]As the son of a pastor I'm gonna have to call a big bullshit on that one.

Justin A 11-20-2004 03:37 PM

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I would say it's more or less neutral for 80%. I would be carefull putting a statistic on Christians fealings against porn. If you simply polled my dad and asked him if he thought it was a sin, I would not be suprised if he said yes. At the same time, he came to the aid and strongly defended a man that was in trouble for surfing a porn website at work. If it wasn't for my dad, that man would of lost his job. Somethings simply don't transfer well to paper. I would not be suprised if this was one of them. It's a unique situation. If there was a poll of Christians, it would have to be phrased very carefully. Porn is taboo, but it is not a huge deal. It's hard to explain. Alot of things in the Bible are read wrong.

Alot of people think that divorce doesn't exist in the Bible. This isn't true. Even Mosses granted a divorce to a large group of Jews. God doesn't like divorce, in fact he seems to hate it, but he puts up with it. Try your hardest to refrain, but if the situation gets too tough to deal with, he will understand. A lot of stuff that is in the Bible is read way to literally by a lot of the more high profile people. It's not like that in your average Roman Catholic church. It's a very complex situation.... Will type more later, I have to go to the lab.

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Your avatar is rather fitting.

Justin A

Justin A 11-20-2004 03:41 PM

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No, I think I am right. What you see on TV, or in the news, is not your typical Christian.

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I don't see Christians on TV or in the news. I am your typical Christian, as is most of my family, and numerous people I've met over the years through church and school.

Justin A

Slacker13 11-20-2004 04:30 PM

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Two guys I know borrowed $250,000 5 years ago from a loan shark taking the chance of their lives, they started an internet porn company and have averaged 60-85 million in revenue in the past four years. So yes, I would say there is a major demand for internet porn.


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