Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

To clarify:

you make an out of nowhere checkraise on a blank river and fold when only one jack and three kinds of 99 beat you.

Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

Yuck.

Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

isn't it conceivable, just a little bit, that your opponent, not knowing you to be the god-fearing Daddy Cool that you are... noted rather astutely that you'd played this hand like a calling station, woke up for a bizarre c/r on a river blank and said "i'm not scared of this a*hole?" and threw it right back at you?

i say all of this with respect to your game, and with the full understanding of raises/3-bets on the end (and, more specifically, how infrequently they are bluffs), but if i didn't know you from a hole in the wall and i had an overpair or A9 suited and you pulled this nonsense on me i'd likely do the same.

Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

I don't play 10/20 often, but I gotta admit - I don't get it.

Any of it.

Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

i'm mainly thinking of the flop check behind. what do you think he'd pull that with? i'm not preaching here, but i'm just asking a genuine question.

Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

If you're going to play it like that you might as well muck face up.

Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

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Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

who knows? overcards? an underpair? Ax suited?

so you were trying to c/r on the flop.

once you missed that, you didn't want to c/r the turn because you wouldn't respect a 3-bet, so you were planning all along for a c/r on the river, fold to a 3-bet from the get go? assuming he didn't check behind AGAIN on the turn?

isn't this potentially disastrous? if you're thinking he'll do this while bluffing... why not just check/call, check/call, since he won't call the river raise in that circumstance.

Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

If you're going to play it like that you might as well muck face up.

You might as well open your wallet and light a 20 dollar bill on fire, screaming "I didn't come here to make money, bitches!"

Re: JTs flops trips but I fold to a river 3-bet
 

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i'm mainly thinking of the flop check behind. what do you think he'd pull that with? i'm not preaching here, but i'm just asking a genuine question.

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I dunno. Perhaps he has AA and thinks he's in a way-ahead, way-behind sort of situation. Perhaps he has AK, realizes that you have a strong propensity to check-raise, and wants to get to a showdown cheaply on a paired board. I've even encountered a few players who will make some strange check-behinds, and then shift gears and try and represent a monster on later streets if they sense that you can let go of a hand. You have trips quit trying to play like Tommy Angelo.