Re: whats a solid bb/100 winrate for NL?
 

my average for all levels is 12bb/100. thats even with my horrid horrid attempt at playing 100 NL. mostly 25/50nl stats.

rj

Re: whats a solid bb/100 winrate for NL?
 

i'm simply quoting what others have posted here. you need to re-read what i said.
for ME, i always put things in terms of Big bets (2xbb). for people who directly cut and poaste pokertracker, the same is true (as PT uses big bets). others have claimed winrates on the order of 20BB, but they have not defined what that means.
the original poster wanted to use big blinds, so that's what i gave him his answers in. and by the way, when i played prima, i consistently (over at least 30K hands) beat the game for much more than 19big blinds/100 (9.5BB/100).
obviously, im not the best SSNL player out there. just bear in mind that a lot of people are absolutely crushing these games; just because your winrate isnt as stellar, doesnt mean its impossible...

fim

Re: whats a solid bb/100 winrate for NL?
 

i make 12bb/100 at 50nl but those players suck...but...i suck too.

rj

Re: whats a solid bb/100 winrate for NL?
 

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the average very good 2+2er does 10-15 = 20-30 Big blinds!!?


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I play shorthanded .5/1 NL$50 at Party. I average 9xBB/100 hands, which is ~$18/100, and since shorthanded averages ~100 hands/hr, I make about $18 hour playing this. I mainly play 1 table, sometimes 2. I don’t have many hands yet, maybe ~7k, but I had this same winrate at NL$25, for ~4k hands which was why I moved up. I’ve looked at my hand distribution and my hole cards are not running particularly hot, and my subjective evaluation from play is that I’m not particularly lucky.

I try to be aggressive about going for good game selection, and use the buddy list to track fish.

I’ve been playing poker for ~9 months, and been very dedicated/obsesive in that time period. I consider myself an intermediate player, certainly not an expert, and think I definitely have leaks and get can my winrate higher.

--Greg

Edit: I also moved up to $NL100 and got my ass kicked so moved back down. I attribute my good results to playing against bad players, but also playing fairly well. I’m sure I can get better, and that should offset any “untraceable” luck I’ve been getting

Re: whats a solid bb/100 winrate for NL?
 

20-25 BB's/100 hands????? Where did you hear this? I would be interested to know who makes this much.

Re: whats a solid bb/100 winrate for NL?
 

please read the other post. the BB numbers i quoted to the OP were in big blinds, as that is how he expressed his numbers.
I personally beat the prima 50, 100 and 200 games for more than 19big blinds/100 over about 30K hands, with about 23-25big blinds/100 on the last 15k hands. and i am very very far from the best SSNL player on these boards...

fim

Re: whats a solid bb/100 winrate for NL?
 

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i'm simply quoting what others have posted here. you need to re-read what i said.
for ME, i always put things in terms of Big bets (2xbb). for people who directly cut and poaste pokertracker, the same is true (as PT uses big bets). others have claimed winrates on the order of 20BB, but they have not defined what that means.
the original poster wanted to use big blinds, so that's what i gave him his answers in. and by the way, when i played prima, i consistently (over at least 30K hands) beat the game for much more than 19big blinds/100 (9.5BB/100).
obviously, im not the best SSNL player out there. just bear in mind that a lot of people are absolutely crushing these games; just because your winrate isnt as stellar, doesnt mean its impossible...

fim

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30,000 hands is nothing. My WR still moves around a lot after well over 100k hands.

Re: whats a solid bb/100 winrate for NL?
 

30K hands is a good enough number in nl. you shouldnt be moving up and down much if you have 100K in your system.

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30K hands is a good enough number in nl. you shouldnt be moving up and down much if you have 100K in your system.

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30k hands is enough for a very rough idea. The ballpark of your WR. my WR has moved by almost 1bb/100 after 60k hands before (when i ran INSANELY hot once).

The fact of the matter is, WR is not even CLOSE to accurate at 30k hands. Even in NL.

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The fact of the matter is, WR is not even CLOSE to accurate at 30k hands. Even in NL.

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why? evidence? did you consider that your win rate increased over your last 60k hands because you improved? you can show that 30k is a fine number for a decent estimate by just looking at the average variance. when you say "the fact of the matter is" i expect some proof so lets hear it [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]