Re: Jon Stewart on Crossfire
 

ED,
Thanks for posting the video because the transcript doesn't do it justice. I saw Stewart on O'Reilly as well, but I didn't think he was as harsh on there, but damn, Stewart sure is buring some bridges in the cable news world, but I don't think he even cares [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

My favorite excerpt.

Stewart :"How old are you"
Carlson :"35"
Stewart: "and you still wear bow ties? hahaha"

Re: Jon Stewart on Crossfire
 

I agree, he wasn't as harsh to O'reilly, in fact he made fun of himself way more than he dug into O'reilly.

Re: Jon Stewart on Crossfire
 

I skimmed the transcript, haven't seen CF in more than ten years for more than 5 minutes.

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I disagree completely. His problem with Crossfire is exactly the same as mine... what they label "debate" is actually just a shouting match a la Jerry Springer. His comparison to pro wrestling was apt.

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To tune into that show regularly hoping for debate and feeling pain and anger when it doesn't deliver is foolishness. It's a stupid show. It's purpose is to sell cookies or viagra or whatever. The format is an asinine simulated debate.

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The problem with it is that stupid people watch the show and think what they are doing/saying is meaningful. The show is on CNN... it features several "respected" talking heads... it purports to be real, relevant journalism.


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This is the thing that amuses me despite it's predictability. One is worried that the other guy or the masses or whatever is/are duped daily by CF. Try not to take your superiority too seriously. Just find a better or more entertaining or more productive use of your own television viewing time.

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In fact, it's exactly what Stewart called it... theater. All they do is quote the latest slogans from the Karl Roves of the world at one another.


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Shocking. And you tune in regularly why? Because you hope it will be worthwhile? Because you want to know what is being fed to the unwashed? Because the Spice Channel is on the blink? Or is it simply that watching TV is a relaxing diversion, occasionally entertaining or informative.

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Why does it matter? I guess it doesn't. But it's a shame that, on a CNN network that already shamelessly panders to mainstream party politics, their "free-thinking debate show" is the worst offender of all.

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Oh. Boy. I'm glad you enjoyed the JS appearance on CF and heard someone voice your objections to CF. Maybe you can stop watching a show you find vapid now. It does mean abdicating your position as monitor of what is being fed to the masses, but now that you are in your 30s someone else can pick up that burden.

Re: Jon Stewart on Crossfire
 

Stewart wants it both ways. He wants to hide behind his status as a "comedian" whenever someone confronts him as a partisan who throws softballs at Kerry, but then he wants us to take his political statements seriously as if he's something more than a mere comedian.

You can't have it both ways. Either we can't take him seriously and thus we shouldn't criticize his political stances and the way he favors Kerry, or we should accept his serious pronouncements on politics and hold him to his own standards.

Typical.

natedogg

Re: Jon Stewart on Crossfire
 

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Stewart wants it both ways. He wants to hide behind his status as a "comedian" whenever someone confronts him as a partisan who throws softballs at Kerry, but then he wants us to take his political statements seriously as if he's something more than a mere comedian.

You can't have it both ways. Either we can't take him seriously and thus we shouldn't criticize his political stances and the way he favors Kerry, or we should accept his serious pronouncements on politics and hold him to his own standards.

Typical.

natedogg

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As usual you hit right on the head Natedog.

Although Crossfire does suck massive donkey dick

Re: Jon Stewart on Crossfire
 

i agree with you to a point. but it's not that he wants it both ways. if the guy were to attack stewart's beliefs then that would be one thing, but to attack his show is another, as it is clearly a comedy show.

Interesting Viewpoint
 

Interesting, since they are using public airwaves to pump this crap into our homes. In exchange for the free use of public property, shouldn't we require that they not turn into crap absolutely everything they touch?

Re: Interesting Viewpoint
 

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Interesting, since they are using public airwaves to pump this crap into our homes. In exchange for the free use of public property, shouldn't we require that they not turn into crap absolutely everything they touch?

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I was under the impression that the Cable News Network was on cable?

If I'm wrong, dudgeon is still pretty cheap.

Re: Interesting Viewpoint
 

actually most cable services are granted a monopoly by the local govt. So don't they owe something to their customers they serve, in consideration of these rights, instead of just the shareholders?

Take a course in Corporate Ethics. A good Corporation should balance the interests of the shareholders, employees, vendors, as well as the customers.

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actually most cable services are granted a monopoly by the local govt. So don't they owe something to their customers they serve, in consideration of these rights, instead of just the shareholders?

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Lose one platform for a rhetorical question, come up with another without blinking. It's an easy game. But is CNN the cable service being granted monopoly...?

Since sooner or later you are bound to find some grounds for your rehtorical gesture, I'll address it: I'm not sure that CNN is violating some public trust with CF. I don't watch the show, and the question doesn't interest me. From what I know of television, there is little that I find useful for anything other than entertainment or relaxation, and the public, whose champion you apparently are, appears to accept it in general and have alternatives to CNN in particular.

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Take a course in Corporate Ethics. A good Corporation should balance the interests of the shareholders, employees, vendors, as well as the customers.

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Kewl.