Re: We need a new word for \"gambling\"
 

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Gambling is simply putting money on an event or series of events where the outcome is not guaranteed. It should be an umbrella term to cover +EV and -EV.

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So is "investing". My retirement account is essentially gambled money. I could lose it all (say if a plane hits a building or an electricity company decides to lie to the world a million times.) But it doesn't really fit in the same category as craps.

At the same time I would say me if Phil Ivey were to play me heads up for $100K, his money would be about as safe as mine is in my retirement account. So that's not really gambling.

We need a new word to describe these +EV situations.

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My girlfriend likes to call poker "gambling". I like to think of it as "a skill game played for money".

When I use the word "gambling", I think of the house having an edge (like our national lottery in Canada where they only pay out 45% of what they bring in), or betting on completely random events (coin flips, a ball landing on 8 black).

Does anyone else differentiate between poker and "gambling"?

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Playing within skill level and bankroll is working. Otherwise it's gambling.

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Gaming.

It doesn't really matter what you call it though. Once people find out you're playing poker, they equate it with gambling and it becomes bad in their minds.

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I like "gaming". Get rid of the "gamble" when it comes to poker.

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I like "gaming". Get rid of the "gamble" when it comes to poker.

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Playing casino games is called "gaming". Have you never heard of the Neveda Gaming Commission?

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Take a look at pg 19 in SSHE. Miller offers a good explanation as to why poker is gambling.

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Poker is gambling.

Whatever new euphemism you pick for it will eventually pick up the same connotations that "gambling" carries today.

Let's not suck the marrow out of our language.

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new word for gambling: gamb00l1ng
new word for girlfriend: owner of your soft spherical organs