Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
 

First of all, your raise preflop UTG makes no sense. Not for shania, not for any reason. Fold.

As for the turn: I call here and check the river. This gives him another opportunity for a desparation bluff.

Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
 

Preflop raise is fine, what do you mean?

Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
 

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First of all, your raise preflop UTG makes no sense. Not for shania, not for any reason. Fold.

As for the turn: I call here and check the river. This gives him another opportunity for a desparation bluff.

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Pre-flop I'm raising for value.

Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
 

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First of all, your raise preflop UTG makes no sense. Not for shania, not for any reason. Fold.

As for the turn: I call here and check the river. This gives him another opportunity for a desparation bluff.

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This is how LAGs do it....dirty! If you were villian, would you see 85s coming here from a PFR? Exactly.

Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
 

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First of all, your raise preflop UTG makes no sense. Not for shania, not for any reason. Fold.

As for the turn: I call here and check the river. This gives him another opportunity for a desparation bluff.

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This is how LAGs do it....dirty! If you were villian, would you see 85s coming here from a PFR? Exactly.

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It's how bad LAGs do it.

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First of all, your raise preflop UTG makes no sense. Not for shania, not for any reason. Fold.

As for the turn: I call here and check the river. This gives him another opportunity for a desparation bluff.

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This is how LAGs do it....dirty! If you were villian, would you see 85s coming here from a PFR? Exactly.

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It's how bad LAGs do it.

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I've been outed!

Re: Maximizing value/Minimizing loss - 200 NL - $400 stacks
 

Im not going broke here. He could easily have 77 or 22. I call his raise and check/call the river.

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Im not going broke here. He could easily have 77 or 22. I call his raise and check/call the river.

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Pot on river will be $320+ which is less than what either of us have left. Would you check/fold to an all-in?

I'm thinking the stack considerations mean that if you call the turn you should probably just push any river.

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First of all, your raise preflop UTG makes no sense. Not for shania, not for any reason. Fold.

As for the turn: I call here and check the river. This gives him another opportunity for a desparation bluff.

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This is how LAGs do it....dirty! If you were villian, would you see 85s coming here from a PFR? Exactly.

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It's how bad LAGs do it.

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I've been outed!

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What's your reasoning for this raise? What do you mean you're "raising for value?"

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Im not going broke here. He could easily have 77 or 22. I call his raise and check/call the river.

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Pot on river will be $320+ which is less than what either of us have left. Would you check/fold to an all-in?

I'm thinking the stack considerations mean that if you call the turn you should probably just push any river.

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No, I wouldnt push any river. The guy might shove all in with AT if you check to him and hes tilting. Do you think hes gong to call YOUR all in with AT?

I have no problem with your preflop raise, but theres no such thing as raising for value preflop with 85s