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Mvcode3 12-13-2005 11:31 PM

Re: QQ couldn\'t lay it down
 
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A limp/re-raise is a pretty sophisticated play for a complete donk.

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The limp re-raise is a classic donk move with the overpair. That set of all sorts of alarms in my head. Utg call with AA-QQ hope it gets raised then trap re-raise.

liucipher 12-13-2005 11:33 PM

Re: QQ couldn\'t lay it down
 
I think the only problem is that they'll do this w/ TT and JJ too. Hell, AJo will do this. The problem w/ donks is that everything is a monster to them.

12-13-2005 11:35 PM

Re: QQ couldn\'t lay it down
 
Don't lay it down. Look at what anyone with 1000+ posts here said. If they've got AA/KK/A8, then so be it, but this is a pretty flop for you.

Will

bigt439 12-13-2005 11:36 PM

Re: QQ couldn\'t lay it down
 
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A limp/re-raise is a pretty sophisticated play for a complete donk.

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The limp re-raise is a classic donk move with the overpair. That set of all sorts of alarms in my head. Utg call with AA-QQ hope it gets raised then trap re-raise.

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Okay, sorry. I'm studying for an exam right now and not paying much attention. I thought he was BB. With the limp reraise this becomes a very good question. My point about making your decision pf still stands though. I don't know what a limp reraise at the 22's means because I've never played them, but I think at the 109's I'd muck pf... which doesn't really help this situation at all. Need a good 22er to tell you what's up. I lean towards pushing though.

Mvcode3 12-13-2005 11:39 PM

Re: QQ couldn\'t lay it down
 
I ended up siding with you guys and pushing on the flop since no overs came. although my read ended up being correct, it is still a very hard laydown--i was actually hoping overs came on the flop so i could fold.

Ill post the rest of the hand

** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8c, 4c, 8h ]
KDLEWIS bets (300)
Strategeo raises (540) to 540
Strategeo is all-In.
KDLEWIS calls (185)
KDLEWIS is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 4s ]
Creating Main Pot with $1595 with KDLEWIS
Creating Side Pot 1 with $55 with Strategeo
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1595 | Side Pot 1: 55
Board: [ 8c 4c 8h 5d 4s ]
elkboy67 balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
KDLEWIS balance 1595, bet 785, collected 1595, net +810 [ As Ah ] [ two pairs, aces and eights -- As,Ah,8c,8h,5d ]
Strategeo balance 55, bet 840, collected 55, lost -785 [ Qc Qh ] [ two pairs, queens and eights -- Qc,Qh,8c,8h,5d ]
NoShow823 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
rocket44222 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
gadropout999 balance 680, didn't bet (folded)
Reza_ balance 925, didn't bet (folded)
CrazyCheese balance 755, didn't bet (folded)
darren67 balance 830, didn't bet (folded)
Joe_Dirt001 balance 775, lost 10 (folded)


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