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KyleM 07-04-2005 02:11 PM

Re: squeeze play coming - do you still make the play
 
Uninstall pokerstove from your computer right now - you're using it to justify terrible plays. work on your game (a lot) before you start to even bother with pokerstove.

oh yea, did i forget to say PUSH? yea, PUSH!!!!! PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSH PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSH

ok said it.

A_PLUS 07-04-2005 02:19 PM

Re: squeeze play coming - do you still make the play
 
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{ JJ, 77, A7s, A7o }

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I dont know, this is usually a range I will put opponents on.

Hmmm, I'll bet he has jacks...or 7s. Definitely has at least one 7. Maybe A7. Thats it!!! Jacks, 7s, or A7..definitely!

familyteeth 07-04-2005 02:41 PM

Re: squeeze play coming - do you still make the play
 
agreed - call it a John Vourhaus moment-can I really do this?

Now what range is utg on (he only retreats after an A flop)
Still have to put him AK-AQs TT up
UTG+1 AK-AQ QQ-88
Draw Man any
BB active

I push and draw man leaves and utg stays?
If utg+1 is on this forum he stays, right?
BB maybe

Now what do you think?
This is the point

A_PLUS 07-04-2005 03:14 PM

Re: squeeze play coming - do you still make the play
 
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Now what range is utg on (he only retreats after an A flop)
Still have to put him AK-AQs TT up

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Way too tight. Even if he is a solid player, KQs, ATs, 77+
Since we dont know, KJ+, ATo, 55+, even JTs, QJs arent out of the question here.

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UTG+1 AK-AQ QQ-88

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So you dont think that someone calls with AJ, AT for a 2.3xBB raise with AT? You have to stop thinking all of your opponents are Tom Mcevoy.

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Above range, plus all PP and probably AXs



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Draw Man any
BB active


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ok

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I push and draw man leaves and utg stays?
If utg+1 is on this forum he stays, right?
BB maybe


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The UG raise represents more strength than a raise from the button, but he folds about 70% of the time to your push

UG+1 folds to your push >70% of the time here. Even if he is on the forum, a UG raise, a push from the SB and a call means he will only call with a premium hand (which he most likely doesnt have). He is up against a high PP too often to call here, IMO

KyleM 07-04-2005 03:31 PM

Re: squeeze play coming - do you still make the play
 
[ QUOTE ]
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{ JJ, 77, A7s, A7o }

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I dont know, this is usually a range I will put opponents on.

Hmmm, I'll bet he has jacks...or 7s. Definitely has at least one 7. Maybe A7. Thats it!!! Jacks, 7s, or A7..definitely!

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LOL

KyleM 07-04-2005 03:32 PM

Re: squeeze play coming - do you still make the play
 
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You have to stop thinking all of your opponents are Tom Mcevoy.

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lol nh

familyteeth 07-04-2005 07:06 PM

Re: squeeze play coming - do you still make the play
 
cool, this makes sense
your ranges, my read -bb is in - utg or utg+1 is in
easy push
4746 to win 16702 3.5:1

no bb - utg or utg+1 stays
pot odds = probability
4746 to 14328 3:1
cheers

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 28.5593 % [ 00.28 00.01 ] { AA-55, AKs-ATs, KQs-KJs, QJs, JTs, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 16.0213 % [ 00.15 00.01 ] { QQ-22, AKs-A5s, AKo-AQo }
Hand 3: 22.9799 % [ 00.21 00.02 ] { 88-55, AKs-A7s, KQs-K9s, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, AKo-ATo, KQo-KJo }
Hand 4: 32.4396 % [ 00.31 00.02 ] { AKo }

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 22.6289 % [ 00.22 00.01 ] { AA-55, AKs-ATs, KQs-KJs, QJs, JTs, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 11.4407 % [ 00.11 00.01 ] { QQ-22, AKs-A5s, AKo-AQo }
Hand 3: 20.2463 % [ 00.20 00.00 ] { 88-55, AKs-A7s, KQs-K9s, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, AKo-ATo, KQo-KJo }
Hand 4: 20.5207 % [ 00.19 00.01 ] { AA-55, AKs-A9s, KQs-KTs, QJs, JTs, AKo-A9o, KQo-KTo, QJo }
Hand 5: 25.1634 % [ 00.24 00.01 ] { AKo }


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