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bluefeet 12-17-2005 08:14 PM

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I notice sometimes that that isn't always the case. I periodically have hands that are in red, where I was opening - everyone having ample chips as well. I've wondered if this was just a clitch, or if there were some unknown factors.

splashpot 12-17-2005 08:17 PM

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As long as you could accurately put your opponent on a range, ICM should work for all situations. But lets say you have a limp, a min-raise, a cold call, action to you. Look at all the ranges you would have to calculate. Even if you were to guess those ranges, there would be a huge margin of error.

12-17-2005 09:07 PM

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So is it safe to assume that ICM is only useful in these two situations?

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ICM is independent chip model, which is a way of assigning equity to chip stacks in a SNG (or larger tournament, I suppose). I point this out because I think a lot of people confuse ICM with the whole process of analyzing an action (usually a push or call decision). ICM is used to evaluate the equity position before the action and after the possible outcomes, but ICM isn't involved with the middle parts. ICM is not the only method for estimating equity.

tigerite 12-17-2005 09:10 PM

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Indeed it is not, but it's probably the most accurate way we have, or that has been found up til now.

zoobird 12-17-2005 09:11 PM

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Can anoyone point me to a good intro to ICM?

pergesu 12-17-2005 09:14 PM

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READ THIS BEFORE POSTING

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eastbay 12-17-2005 09:17 PM

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Do I only need to type in people who act after me? Does the EV change because people have folded before me? Why or why not?

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First thing to note is that you can read in from a hand history file from Party or Stars; this can save a lot of time.



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im stupid, how do you do this?

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File -> Open Tournament. Navigate to where Party or Stars histories are stored. Open one of them.

eastbay

12-17-2005 09:27 PM

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web page

taylor 12-18-2005 03:14 AM

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I don't understand the "reading in" to save time either although I'd like to [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

or else I'm already doing it and just confused.. arrgh

bluefeet 12-18-2005 03:15 AM

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~File
~Open Tournament

...find a piece of HH on your hard drive - viola


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