Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

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Raise the flop

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No, don't raise the flop. 3-betting the flop screams a huge hand (AKA set) on this board, and may chase away any hand that isnt beating us. We want to get more action from TP hands, and there arent any draws we're concerned about. With position, a flop call is correct, with the intention to raise/push the turn.

Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

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Raise the flop

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No, don't raise the flop. 3-betting the flop screams a huge hand (AKA set) on this board, and may chase away any hand that isnt beating us. We want to get more action from TP hands, and there arent any draws we're concerned about. With position, a flop call is correct, with the intention to raise/push the turn.

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Agreed. There is no reason to raise the flop in this situation, it never even crossed my mind.

Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

I hate it but you'll have to pay off 88 here, and I can't really see anything else, except AK from a "tight and agressive" BB. Although he's playing it a lot faster than most guys would at .25/.50 on such a dry board.

Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

I really dont see KK or 88 popping such a boring flop that hard. And having effective stacks slightly over 2x buy in isn't deepstacked (enough to fold this especially)

Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

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Raise the flop

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No need. Put the rest in on the turn.

I really hope this isn't a bad beat post.

Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

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Raise the flop

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No need. Put the rest in on the turn.

I really hope this isn't a bad beat post.

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It is but hero played his hand well. NH.

Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

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Raise the flop

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No need. Put the rest in on the turn.

I really hope this isn't a bad beat post.

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It is but hero played his hand well. NH.

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Villain had 88 so not really a bad beat since he had me all the way. I know that going broke on set v set is just one of those things poker players have to except in capped buy-in NL. After reading the responses I agree that going broke was perfectly okay on this hand (because of the stacks and the action). I think my real question is, at what point do you have to consider folding when the stacks get deeper then this example?

Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

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Raise the flop

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I don't mind a flop call in hopes of an overcall from SB.

Once it's heads up on the turn, it's an easy raise.

Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

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I think my real question is, at what point do you have to consider folding when the stacks get deeper then this example?

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Well, did these stacks deepen because one or two retired CEO's are going buckwild, or are there a few rocks who have steadily been taking people down left and right?

and, FWIW, if I had $250 and he had me covered, I'd still pay him off *if he played the hand like this*. Because I don't entirely agree that his line screams a set above yours.

One more thing: you say his bet screams that he is better than you. Well, that may be true. And you still may be better than him. One of the worst things would be folding the best hand here because the idiot thought his AK really was invincible.

Re: Deep stack situation in 50NL
 

And what exactly does a smooth call of an very large say on a drawless board?