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gharp 10-19-2005 03:34 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
Well let's figure this out with some card frequency crap (assume 2pr or better on the turn):

QT (9 ways) - you're ahead now

Behind against...
KJ (12 ways)
Q7 (6 ways)
A7 (4 ways)
TT (3 ways)
77 (1 way)

So ahead 26 ways, behind 9. You'll win 9/35 ~ 25% of the time. Pot's offering you 8.5:1. Looks like a call.


And I also raise A9o UTG in 6-max, but I think it's close. I'm more likely to do it in a tight game.

Aaron W. 10-19-2005 03:39 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
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It was only 5 players playing, so A9o UTG with 5 players is a raise according to my chart.

I put him on 2 pair to be honest..Queen and either ten or seven and I thought either, Ace, Nine, Either ten or seven would help me

[/ QUOTE ]

Of those two pair hands, how many do you now beat?

Edit: And how many still beat you?

2+2 wannabe 10-19-2005 03:40 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
If you call this turn you have to call this river

the lines you can pick on turn/river to a check-raise are:

1. bet/fold
2. bet/call, check/call

bet/call, check/fold isn't a good option, as you shouldn't be calling the turn bet if you don't call the river

I pick #1 as a default (and will barely use #2 in this situation)

deception5 10-19-2005 03:40 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
[ QUOTE ]
I am new to 6-max, but is A9o a raisable hand UTG?

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ATo is raisable UTG 6-handed so A9o is borderline. However since this is 5 handed A9o is definitely raisable.

aargh57 10-19-2005 03:41 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
You're also behind against AQ, and AT. I'm still saying fold.

deception5 10-19-2005 03:42 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
[ QUOTE ]
When he c/r me on the turn i knew I was behind, but figured I was probably good enough to continue... What does Hero do at the river?Raise, Call?Fold?


[/ QUOTE ]

It doesn't make any sense to call the check/raise if you're going to fold on the river.

gharp 10-19-2005 03:47 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
[ QUOTE ]
You're also behind against AQ, and AT. I'm still saying fold.

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Oops, yeah, I should've included those. I did intentionally leave out AA/QQ and AK. I figure that they're a wash with AJ, and all seem unlikely given the action.

QT (9 ways) - you're ahead now

Behind against...
KJ (12)
Q7 (6)
A7 (4)
TT (3)
77 (1)

AQ (6)
AT (6)

Now you win 9/47 times. ~20%. I'm still calling.


EDIT: I should say that all this is for the river. Whether to call the turn is a different story, when you're only getting 6.5:2 to call down.

POKhER 10-19-2005 03:47 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
you lose to AK/AT/AQ/Set/Trips/straight
You split with most other things.

Hmmmmm call and cry.

10-19-2005 03:49 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
I'm sure this has been said, but you can only call the turn raise if you're calling the river as well, b/c you're not getting odds to call to improve your hand.

Reqtech 10-19-2005 03:52 PM

Re: I know Im beat on the turn, but what do i do on the river
 
Yes it is if you are CO+1.


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