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Always please, always thankyou. Manners maketh the man (er, not you specifically, OP).

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I agree. I'm a huge manners fan.

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I generally don't see the difference between "dude, I'm trying to sleep" and "dude, I'm trying to sleep, could you please turn your music down?" and the first is a lot easier to say.


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The difference is in the former, you are telling him what to do, in the latter you are asking him.

Always treat people in the manner which you would like them to treat you.

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I generally don't see the difference between "dude, I'm trying to sleep" and "dude, I'm trying to sleep, could you please turn your music down?" and the first is a lot easier to say.


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The difference is in the former, you are telling him what to do, in the latter you are asking him.

Always treat people in the manner which you would like them to treat you.

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actually I feel like in the former, I am telling him my situation. it's in his hands whether he wants to turn the music down or not. in the latter, I'm telling him what to do. but it's obviously a matter of context, and the way he hears it is just as important.

edit: oh and I would definately prefer the shorter version to be asked of me. but that's just me.

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well I guess when you say "dude i'm trying to sleep", he could just say "okay, and?" and then you would have to ask him to turn it down anyway. Just say please dude, wtf does it matter.

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Do you see any difference between saying, "Dude I'm trying to sleep and that mother-[censored] [censored]y music is too [censored] loud", or "Dude I'm trying to sleep so could you please turn that down a notch?".

In one you are telling him your situation and leaving it in his hands, and the other you are asking with politeness. What's the difference between telling him your way and telling him the way I phrased it? The amount of decency in your request. Therefore if a little decency is good, then more must be better. Go all the way and just be polite with the please and thank-yous. You'll get your way much more often and project a better image of yourself IMO.

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With a roommate I would just tell them to quiet the [censored] down, because roommates need to be put in their place.

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wtf does it matter.

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because I'm stubborn. but yeah, good point.

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The fact that he is your roommate is all the more reason to be polite. You may not think so, but if the roles were reversed I'm sure you'd notice the difference.

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Always please, always thankyou. Manners maketh the man (er, not you specifically, OP).

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I agree. I'm a huge manners fan.

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Oh, and a firm and sturdy handshake after a BJ. To show the lady the proper level of gratitude.

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personally I feel like it's less important to be polite in making a request, because it's up to him whether he wants to do the favor or not.

thoughts?

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Doesn't your reasoning make it clear that 'please' might be more important than 'thank you?'